News 'Encanto' and 'Indiana Jones'-themed experiences at Animal Kingdom

SpectreJordan

SpectreJordan

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Brer Panther said:
I'm really glad they're not doing the Moana/Zootopia Dinoland replacement. I don't like the idea of removing dinosaurs from the park entirely (did Disney look at everyone complaining about Dino-Rama and come to the conclusion that people don't like dinosaurs anymore?), but I do like the idea of Animal Kingdom getting a South America land... just not at the expense of Dinoland.

I have the following conditions...

1) Have the Indiana Jones ride focus on Indy encountering dinosaurs, allowing you to retain as many of the dinosaur animatronics from Dinosaur as possible (as others have suggested, especially since the Carnotaurus apparently lived in Argentina).

2) Keep the focus of the land on animals and the natural world. I don't want Encanto and Indiana Jones Land, neither IP really fits in Animal Kingdom at all what with them not being about animals (yes, I know Antonio exists, but Disney's likely to have the Encanto attraction focus on Mirabel over him since she's the lead character). I think Up and Rio would be more fitting IPs to have here than either of them.

3) Don't make the Encanto attraction another trackless dark ride. The novelty of those has worn off. I want to go back to busbar dark rides that don't just spin around in enormous spread-out rooms or park the riders in front of a screen.

Is it too much to hope that Disney reconsiders the idea? Maybe do a Dinoland refresh that actually involves DINOSAURS and other prehistoric animals? Disney owns Ice Age now, that Buck movie on Disney Plus shows that they're still willing to milk the franchise...


Considering how long it took them to build Runaway Railway, Tron, and Guardians of the Galaxy? I don't know.

This IS the same company that assumed The Princess and the Frog underperformed because it was hand-drawn and stopped doing theatrical Muppet movies because Muppets Most Wanted flopped. Fifty-percent chance they don't learn from their mistakes and just assume that people don't care about Indiana Jones anymore.
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I have a strong feeling this is what happened; Dinoland's always been a laughing stock, I feel it's gotten even worse in recent year. There's also no IPs to base more Dinosaur attractions around so they decide it all must go.
 
SpectreJordan

SpectreJordan

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999th Happy Haunt said:
Food for thought, maybe add dinosaur exhibits/education tables around the park showcasing fossils from the respective land they’re in? Africa and Asia have pretty unique fossil histories, and Carnotaurus IS a South American discovery. Put some of the popular American dinosaur fossils like T Rex (the Sue fossil in Dinoland right now) on Discovery Island and boom, dinosaurs are still part of AK without having to shoehorn them into an Indy attraction (which I still think could actually work if done right).
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This seems a lot more educational than the current land. It could help drive home the message about extinction too. It gives a clearer look at how far spread across the globe dinosaurs were & how they're just gone now, never to return. It could open up some eyes if you have that side-by-side with real life elephants, tigers & macaws.
 
Skibum1970

Skibum1970

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Henry Mystic said:
That's actually a stupidly good idea!


I honestly don't understand why pretty much the only elite dinosaur movie ever was Jurassic Park which is basically a theme park/horror movie. I guess you could toss Peter Jackson's King Kong in there too since they're featured as the second-best, but it strikes me as bizarre.

You would think there would be some story about such a cool, broad concept worth telling.
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There were plenty of dinosaur movies made. They just were not any good. Jurassic Park was the first really good dinosaur movie made. To me, the only problem that Disney faces is Jurassic Park existing at Islands. Anything Disney does is going to seem semi-duplicative. So, they are basically left no alternative but to dump Dinosaur rather than trying to build out fossil discovery or other activities. Just my opinion, though. For what it's worth, I would have much preferred Dinosaur stay and just get fixed up, maybe revert to original ride premise. Adding Encanto is about as good as can be hoped for in today's IP world. Although, I still don't understand why Disney doesn't lean on their Disney Nature presentations for IP tie-ins.
 
griffin ferrari

griffin ferrari

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lazyboy97o said:
Huh? The did release concept art for Evolving Epcot (during early development), Moana/Zootopia and Beyond Big Thunder.
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they did, this is what they showed back in 2017
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Then this more finalized one in 2019
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No Name

No Name

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James Alucobond said:
It didn’t seem that far off from the plan with the Festival Center. The Center was just smaller, Creation Shop was also blown up, and there were new structures in its place.
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Well both didn’t look like they were adding anything substantial, that’s how they’re most similar. Otherwise pretty much every single ounce of it, except maybe the circular shape of what’s presumably the festival center, is different. No hedge maze, fountains, heavy landscaping, pod shaped buildings, etc. (or is there an etc… that’s kind of it) was present in the 2019 art.
 
PREMiERdrum

PREMiERdrum

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Indiana Jones and the Temple of Time

Deep in the Central American rainforest, a recently-unearthed temple is mystifying locals and archeologists alike. The temple's insertion l interior has been set up as a makeshift museum to share their recent discovery. Along with the usual paintings and artifacts, the temple's corridors are lined with the monsters of a prehistoric age. The artwork depicts natives interacting with the ancient beasts, demonstrating some sort of time-bending cooperative civilization. In the main chamber, historians discovered a complete Carnotaurus fossil... standing majestically behind an alter covered in time-worn offerings. On this alter rests a tall pedestal... a display whose prize jewel appears to be missing. The locals have long heard their elders tell stories of an enchanted stone - said to be a raw emerald three times the size of a man's head - that allowed their ancestors to cross timelines and live amongst dinosaurs.

Brought in to assist the local scientists, Indiana Jones journeys deep into the so-called Temple of Time in search of the emerald. An elder tribesman warns up as he begins his exploration that finding the emerald just might be the beginning of this journey, not the end. Once the emerald is found and restored to its proper place, the timelines again cross and the prehistoric world starts to blend with the current. With no balance between man and nature, the timelines cannot settle. Can Indiana Jones survive this encounter with ancient beasts and restore order and balance to the temple? Ride along to find out.

See? It wouldn't be *that* hard to make it all work.
 
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GravityFalls

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I've been staring at this Tropical Americas concept art for a while and I'm starting to think that the Animal Kingdom plans also include Coco. Personally I'd rather have Coco at Epcot, but I think this is where things are heading.
  • The buildings bare a closer resemblance to the town of Santa Cecilia in Coco then the village from Encanto
  • The entrance into the area includes the multi-colored banners as seen in Coco
  • The entrance includes a bell tower, similar to the church in Coco
  • The area can represent multiple IPs (we already know about Indiana Jones and Encanto)
  • Disney already has two Coco restaurants planned for the near future (Disneyland Paris and the Disney Treasure Cruise ship) so I think it's plausible and cost-effective to re-theme Restaurantosaurus.
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Also the concept art shows a large gazebo that most people think is a covered re-themed Triceratops Spin. I think there are two possibilities for a retheme. The first being Antonio from Encanto's animals, the second being the Alebrijes (specifically Pepita the flying jaguar) from Coco. The Alebrijes makes sense for two reasons: they are flying mythical animals, two the covered area would be dark enough for glow in the dark paint to be used.

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MisterPenguin

MisterPenguin

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GravityFalls said:
I've been staring at this Tropical Americas concept art for a while and I'm starting to think that the Animal Kingdom plans also include Coco. Personally I'd rather have Coco at Epcot, but I think this is where things are heading.
  • The buildings bare a closer resemblance to the town of Santa Cecilia in Coco then the village from Encanto
  • The entrance into the area includes the multi-colored banners as seen in Coco
  • The entrance includes a bell tower, similar to the church in Coco
  • The area can represent multiple IPs (we already know about Indiana Jones and Encanto)
  • Disney already has two Coco restaurants planned for the near future (Disneyland Paris and the Disney Treasure Cruise ship) so I think it's plausible and cost-effective to re-theme Restaurantosaurus.
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Also the concept art shows a large gazebo that most people think is a covered re-themed Triceratops Spin. I think there are two possibilities for a retheme. The first being Antonio from Encanto's animals, the second being the Alebrijes (specifically Pepita the flying jaguar) from Coco. The Alebrijes makes sense for two reasons: they are flying mythical animals, two the covered area would be dark enough for glow in the dark paint to be used.

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Yes, it's likely a Coco restaurant.
 
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James Alucobond

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If the tower were meant to be Santa Cecilia’s tower, it would be Santa Cecilia’s tower. They wouldn’t be subtle about it. Also, the hanging banners are a single color, not the colorful papel picado of a Day of the Dead celebration.
 
MisterPenguin

MisterPenguin

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James Alucobond said:
If the tower were meant to be Santa Cecilia’s tower, it would be Santa Cecilia’s tower. They wouldn’t be subtle about it. Also, the hanging banners are a single color, not the colorful papel picado of a Day of the Dead celebration.
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It seems they're not ready to commit to it being Coco. But, the art could be Coco-ish, or something else they're considering.
 

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