Downtown Disney District Extends to Buena Vista Street

DrAlice

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I’ve never understood the vitriol for vloggers from the fan community. Are some of them annoying as hell? Yes. Do some of their cartoon voices make me want to bash my head in? Yes. Some of them however are good.
Exactly this.

And, for all of you that "hate" vloggers: It's interesting to me that many of you sure seem to know when they've put out something new. And I find it fascinating that you sure seem to know what's in the content of the stuff they put out.

If you really hate them, here's a crazy idea: STOP WATCHING.
 

britain

Well-Known Member
Exactly this.

And, for all of you that "hate" vloggers: It's interesting to me that many of you sure seem to know when they've put out something new. And I find it fascinating that you sure seem to know what's in the content of the stuff they put out.

If you really hate them, here's a crazy idea: STOP WATCHING.

But... but... we CAN’T STOP! If we could, do you think we’d be checking in here every 10 minutes!?
 
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Disneyland Resort President Ken Potrock announced today that, effective immediately, the Downtown Disney District would be expanding to encompass all of Disneyland Park and Disney California Adventure Park. Citing growing tensions between Disney and the State of California, the Disneyland Resort will be renamed the Downtown Disneyland Resort (logo below). The attractions inside of the Disneyland and Disney California Adventure theme parks are not expected to reopen, with the shops and restaurants inside each park instead creating a giant mall full of Instagrammable photo ops and delicious food and alcohol. As Potrock said during this announcement, "To all who come with wallets full of cash: welcome."View attachment 508104

I hollored out loud! That quote at the end. 💀 Your post wins the Disneyland internet award for the week.
 

chadwpalm

Well-Known Member
In the Parks
No
At least DLR is trying something!
So, will people have to go through DCA's gates or is there a back door onto BVS in DTD we don't know about?
There's a large gate between DTD and DCA between World of Disney and La Brea (next to Soarin'). I can see them using that as an entrance and the main DCA gates as an exit to keep things flowing in one direction and help with social distancing. The path next to Soarin' is probably wide enough to do entrance and exit and just keep the main gate for exit, or even just for emergency exit.

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The DTD side:

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The DCA side:

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mickEblu

Well-Known Member
Time to go back to the ticket books. Soarin + a sandwich at Starbucks + a churro is an E ticket and costs 50$. Who’s going?


🙋🏻‍♂️... only if it’s Soarin over California though.
 
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EPCOTCenterLover

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1. Yes. I mean, look at how slow their construction speed is nowadays! The company as a whole is definitely bloated and mismanaged.
But even Knott's couldn't just throw open the gates whenever they decided to do their event. You can't leave a theme park dormant for any period of time and just reopen (those seasonal parks that close for the winter don't just sit there for six months doing nothing and then throw open the gates-they're refurbishing, redecorating, inspecting/maintaining rides, etc). Inevitably you will have to do the necessary preparations to have guests in the space again, including cleaning, ordering food/merchandise, hiring and (re)training of staff, putting up new signage, etc. But Knott's is not only less watched than Disney but pivoted much faster, so it probably seems like they could do it overnight. No way that was actually the case.
2. Hence why I said unlikely. Disney can still be a very conservative company. What else is Iger's Disney output if not incredibly conservative and risk-averse? They're literally just making the same movies over and over again and being rewarded for doing so! Additionally, Disney knows that the minute they let the locals flood the parks, they will do so. Better to do it slowly and carefully.
3. The vloggers will absolutely lose their heads when MSUSA opens, not to mention the general population.
4. As I said, it's arguable, but DCA has some nice food options in Carthay, the Pacific Wharf, the cones, Ghiradelli, etc. Not saying DL has all bad options, but I think that pixie dust inflation and/or nostalgia applies more and makes the parks seem less equal than they really are in the food department.
6. I've always thought BVS was actually pretty nice, apparent questionable backstory aside! Not that there isn't something intangible about Main Street, but BVS is hardly amateur hour either.

It makes sense to start with DCA because right now people will eat up ANYTHING that will allow them a little bit of Disneyland. It's an appetizer. If they were to open bits of DL first and then slowly open parts of DCA, no one would care about DCA. But if DL itself remains closed, then suddenly just being in DCA will be highly appealing to many people.

Still, I'm sure that in time they will open DL and they could even do a "throwback" advertising campaign to match. "Remember when you could just come into Disneyland for a few dollars and enjoy it like an actual park? Well now, Disney presents a special, MAGICAL limited time offer to experience the atmosphere of the park the way it used to be, but with the modern amenities and Disneyland touches of the day that we know you've missed, like Plaza Inn Chicken and $20 churros, now featuring pumpkin spice!" etc.
I think Buena Vista street is every bit as charming as Main Street. Well worth the wandering through the shops and lingering in the area.
 
I don't know, dude. [The comments section on the Reddit Disneyland (Reddit is a cesspool but I occasionally look at it)] is weirdly optimistic about it when they're usually a bunch of Shut It Downers/ Replace Splash Mountainers. I think it's going to be a big hit if even those nuts are responding positively. Shopping and Outdoor Dining = Good!
Sounds like this website. Why do you have to gatekeep everything?
 

networkpro

Well-Known Member
In the Parks
Yes
because it is Disneyland, not because of vloggers. Pefect example, GALAXY'S EDGE. Vloggers posted videos daily of the new land and no one showed up. They posted videos of how empty the park was and people still did not show up. They posted detailed videos how the reservation system worked and when it was no longer in use and people still did not show up. Some influencers.

Yep, its call simple population growth.
 

TDL

Member
There's a large gate between DTD and DCA between World of Disney and La Brea (next to Soarin'). I can see them using that as an entrance and the main DCA gates as an exit to keep things flowing in one direction and help with social distancing. The path next to Soarin' is probably wide enough to do entrance and exit and just keep the main gate for exit, or even just for emergency exit.

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The DTD side:

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The DCA side:

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Seems reasonable, and likely.
That would be a pretty decent sized section of the park to be operating.
Not really. Smokejumpers is already confirmed to be one of the operating restaurants, so it is really just a matter of if the Grizzly Peak bathroom would be open (and I don't see why not, it gives them another operating one) and if they are going to use that extra egress as an entrance and/or exit opposed to just the main gate.
 

choco choco

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Why isn't it main st usa and why did it take them 5 months after Knotts to do this?

Open both the parks just for food and shops.

It's stunning isn't it. Disney has a bunch of Ivy League educated MBA's who - when the situation really called for it - proved they can't actually think of ways to make money. But somehow the many, many, many other business who aren't worth billions of dollars found a way to adapt without whining and crying about how the Governor is (inexplicably) out to get them.

Disney has been a Karen about this whole situation.
 

mharrington

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I have been trying to stay out of the main forums for a while because of how passionate I am about what's going on, but now I have no choice...

I sincerely believe that this situation proves that Disneyland is never going to truly open anytime soon, and probably never will. Isn't just shops/restaurants what Downtown Disney is for? This solution is not just a Band-Aid solution, but also kind of an insult.

I feel that reopening just shops/restaurants is an example of doing something by halves, which I'm told is frowned upon in life. It basically means: "To do something half-heartedly or only partially," which is exactly what they're doing here. They are "trying," which Yoda warns against: "Do or do not. There is no try." This is going to hurt them in the long run.
 

mickEblu

Well-Known Member
I have been trying to stay out of the main forums for a while because of how passionate I am about what's going on, but now I have no choice...

I sincerely believe that this situation proves that Disneyland is never going to truly open anytime soon, and probably never will. Isn't just shops/restaurants what Downtown Disney is for? This solution is not just a Band-Aid solution, but also kind of an insult.

I feel that reopening just shops/restaurants is an example of doing something by halves, which I'm told is frowned upon in life. It basically means: "To do something half-heartedly or only partially," which is exactly what they're doing here. They are "trying," which Yoda warns against: "Do or do not. There is no try." This is going to hurt them in the long run.


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