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Do you think that Disney world will reclose its gates due to the rising number of COVID cases in Florida and around the country?
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Miss Bella
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Not where I’m from. The only hospital I’ve worked at with 12 ICU beds was a very small 80 bed specialty hospital. I work in a mid size 300 bed hospital and we have 50 ICU beds. 20% of our population is over 65 our hospitals are always full. Anyone in healthcare that needs job security come here.
Also not in Broward County, where Ft. Lauderdale hospital in question is, out of all the 17 hospitals that have ICU's only three have less than 10 beds.
Miss Bella
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You can easily find out that number, and I shared it showing the drop since you ignore it.
lazyboy97o
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“'This is largely due to our continued efforts to increase staffing and expand bed capacity.'”
“'Dignity Health hospitals in Arizona remain in the contingency stage of the Crisis Standards of Care Plan established by the Arizona Department of Health Services, and our surge plans are working well.'”
Your own article disputes your repeated claims that this is business as usual.
For those wondering, here is what is happening in an Arizona hospital for it to be in Contingency:
- Patient care areas re-purposed (e.g., PACU or monitored unit used for ICU-level care)
- Staff extension in place (brief deferrals of non-emergency patient-care services, supervising broader groups of patients,
changes in responsibilities and documentation, etc.) - Conservation, adaptation, and substitution of supplies with selective re-use of supplies for an individual patient
- Hospital on diversion
The plan only has three stages: Conventional, Contingency and Crisis.
For the record you are the one who brought up the whole Arizona deal in your first post today to take it in that direction.
I commented on the nationwide picture, including the good news that Arizona was showing some improvement.
Then you oddly played a game of gotcha... as if you got me to admit Arizona had some signs of improvement, which is what I openly said from the start.
Those particular hospitals are very busy I don't think anyone is doubting that, and that has happened before and will happen again.
REALLY? You posted the number?
“One ICU physician in Tucson, who asked not to be named for fear of employer retaliation”
Ok... please... show me the post where you easily identified the anonymous ICU physician, you identified the hospital, and you posted the current ICU usage at his hospital?
Not at all just noted that your article you shared was antecdotal fear mongering in my opinion and asked you to back the random % stats that you posted with some type of source, which you haven't.
Again, no. What these hospitals are seeing— they have never gone through anything like this.
Please... find another example where things get so bad that elective procedures get cancelled for weeks/months. (Not just a couple days... not a bad 2 weeks of the flu where a few doctors pick up some extra shifts).
I think I have no choice but to block you. When reliable stats get posted, you ignore them in favor of something you can distort or cherry pick. When firsthand accounts are posted, you ignore them as anecdotal.
I don’t understand your agenda.. to distort and fabricate, instead of just an honest understanding of what’s happening.
Ah you meant that one hospital that you calculated the percentage drop from his one hospital based on numbers that you know admit you don't know.
Moving on.
Fair enough if that is the case, show me any reliable stats that I have ignored and/or where I have "cherry picked" i am the one sharing state government data.
Ben_since_1971
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Miss Bella
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We always use Pacu and cath lab areas to house patients during winter surges this is nothing new.
Going on diversion during the Winter surge is common. We have not been on diversion once this year.
We bring in supplemental staffing every winter. Nothing to see there.
You are correct this is not a normal July for us. It's January all over again.
The article did not contradict anything I've ever said. I've always said we are busy, but we are handling the surge well.
Isn't that what you do during a pandemic. I mean we bring in supplemental staffing every winter. Many staff were given the opportunity to upskill back in April. It was all voluntary. Some are loving it and want to transfer into ICU when this is over. Others have found ICU is not for them. None of it was forced on them.
We always use Pacu and cath lab areas to house patients during winter surges this is nothing new.
Going on diversion during the Winter surge is common. We have not been on diversion once this year.
We bring in supplemental staffing every winter. Nothing to see there.
You are correct this is not a normal July for us. It's January all over again.
The article did not contradict anything I've ever said. I've always said we are busy, but we are handling the surge well.
You have ignored that 50 hospitals in Florida are at already at 100% ICU capacity (which is already including additional surge capacity)
But hey... now you will cherrypick, you will go find hospitals with capacity and you will return to the "nothing to see here" propaganda.
Miss Bella
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Oh, I've seen it waayyyyy busier. I've worked in this state for 20 years. Our non-COVID floors have been at around 70% capacity and the Covid at 100%. The rule out floors are up and down. There is a lot of shuffling patients around. We have to keep those that need to be on the dirty side on that side, and those that don't on the clean side.
Our population keeps increasing many hospitals are expanding and we have a new hospital opening this Fall. This Winter is when we will really get tested with COVID and the Flu, but I feel confident with what I've seen over the last month that we will be just fine.