Do you think that Disney world will reclose its gates due to the rising number of COVID cases in Florida and around the country?

October82

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Well I didn’t want to but Disney World refuses to refund my pass partially even though their website says otherwise.

Therefore so as not to waste $500.00 I will be going to AK in August. Hoping Florida has shown some improvement by then but I’m not betting on it. I don’t think they will reclose if they haven’t already with the huge caseload day to day

Ps: if anyone knows inner workings of Disney PM me, because I have run out of recourse on refunding my pass

People often have luck with the social media teams about these sorts of issues. Companies don't like bad PR on twitter.
 

Chef Mickey

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Asymptomatic as in "positive test result without symptoms like coughing or fever". @Tony the Tigger is right - there have been a series of scientific papers that have found lung damage in these patients.
And? You still have to ask yourself, how common is that, what does it mean, is it permanent (clearly unknown bc how new this is), does it “matter” and do things like bronchitis and other respiratory infections also cause similar lung damage, meaning this is nothing new.

Just throwing it out there is the definition of alarmist. It’s a headline:

LUNG DAMAGE FROM COVID19 WITH NO SYMPTOMS. CLICK ME!!!!
 
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October82

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I was clarifying for the person I responded to what @Tony the Tigger was referring to.

You still have to ask yourself, how common is that, what does it mean, is it permanent (clearly unknown bc how new this is), does it “matter” and do things like bronchitis and other respiratory infections also cause similar lung damage, meaning this is nothing new.

Just throwing it out there is the definition of alarmist. It’s a headline:

LUNG DAMAGE FROM COVID19 WITH NO STMPTOMS. CLICK ME!!!!

I can't speak for anyone else, but I was referring to published scientific papers looking at all of these questions, not media reports. If anything, I've seen very little media coverage about these research results. The reason for this is that we don't know enough and journalists generally try to be responsible about not repeating information that is uncertain in their reporting. I'll just add that we shouldn't discount things that are alarming just because they are alarming, but we also shouldn't give them more weight than the evidence warrants.
 

Chef Mickey

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I was clarifying for the person I responded to what @Tony the Tigger was referring to.



I can't speak for anyone else, but I was referring to published scientific papers looking at all of these questions, not media reports. If anything, I've seen very little media coverage about these research results. The reason for this is that we don't know enough and journalists generally try to be responsible about not repeating information that is uncertain in their reporting. I'll just add that we shouldn't discount things that are alarming just because they are alarming, but we also shouldn't give them more weight than the evidence warrants.
Agree...I’d like to ask more questions when seeing this kind of report and read it thoroughly. I would wager you might be able to see temporary lung ”damage” from a bad pneumonia, bronchitis, or even regular respiratory infection. The question is, is it harmless, permanent, or even meaningful? Or is the damage like a scar on your skin...who cares.

I only brought up the media because they love this stories for headlines. They did it with specific young ages that supposedly died from Covid, only to read in the article they had many underlying health issues.
 

disneygeek90

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and that is more likely due to demand than any virus concerns
I was speaking to a bartender at Springs on Friday. Previously WDW has told the locations what percentage of the resorts are filled every day so they have an estimate for potential traffic. They haven't been given any figures during the reopen, assuming it's so bad they don't even want to tell them.
 

legwand77

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I was speaking to a bartender at Springs on Friday. Previously WDW has told the locations what percentage of the resorts are filled every day so they have an estimate for potential traffic. They haven't been given any figures during the reopen, assuming it's so bad they don't even want to tell them.

True, really no need to because they are not anywhere near any capacity concerns. Once the local APs are allowed that is going to bump traffic parks, for resorts it will be a while.
 

disneygeek90

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True, really no need to because they are not anywhere near any capacity concerns. Once the local APs are allowed that is going to bump traffic parks, for resorts it will be a while.
Nothing really to do with capacity concerns. It sounded like WDW would tell the restaurants in Springs what their rooms were looking like so the businesses would know what kind of potential they had for the day. It seems like the numbers are so low they don't even want to make it "public."
 

ToTBellHop

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Nothing really to do with capacity concerns. It sounded like WDW would tell the restaurants in Springs what their rooms were looking like so the businesses would know what kind of potential they had for the day. It seems like the numbers are so low they don't even want to make it "public."
There’s always 2021 lol

Bookings are currently good for next year. Let’s hope people can wear their masks in 2020 so we can have more fun in 2021.
 

legwand77

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More good news, some posters were very concerned that hospitalizations in Miami were going to be overwhelmed etc. Not looking like that is going to happen. The rolling 7 day net new Covid hospitalizations have now declined 9 of past 10 days. Also hospitalizations statewide have remained stable or have slightly improved.
 

Miss Bella

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If the trends continue for another week or two this thread is going to be less and less relevant.

Next thread up when will Disney not require masks at Disney? too soon? <---this is a joke
It’s already irrelevant. If you need entertainment you can always read the other thread. There’s enough whiners. complainers and negativity over there to make you thank God you don’t see the world through their eyes.
 

Polkadotdress

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More good news, some posters were very concerned that hospitalizations in Miami were going to be overwhelmed etc. Not looking like that is going to happen. The rolling 7 day net new Covid hospitalizations have now declined 9 of past 10 days. Also hospitalizations statewide have remained stable or have slightly improved.

Hmmmm...yet the news update seems to state the following for Miami: (the % increase may be lower, but it’s still an increase pushing them well beyond their capacity)

Earlier today, Miami-Dade County's Covid-19 dashboard showed ICU capacity in the county was at 130.20%, up from 127% on Sunday. And as of Monday, 513 Covid-19 ICU admissions were recorded. The ICU bed capacity in the county is 394, according to county data.

Also, there’s this quote from the hospital CEO:
While dozens of hospitals in Florida are reporting 0% of ICU beds available, Miami-Dade's Jackson Health System is teetering every day, the CEO says, adding that they may be preparing for a plan B and C, given the growth in cases.
 

legwand77

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Hmmmm...yet the news update seems to state the following for Miami: (the % increase may be lower, but it’s still an increase pushing them well beyond their capacity)

Earlier today, Miami-Dade County's Covid-19 dashboard showed ICU capacity in the county was at 130.20%, up from 127% on Sunday. And as of Monday, 513 Covid-19 ICU admissions were recorded. The ICU bed capacity in the county is 394, according to county data.

Showing why it is important to understand the data. The dashboard that posts that number you quote states.

**Percentage represents the number of COVID positive patients utilizing hospital beds does not include the 1,279 acute care and ICU beds that may be converted.

Currently in Miami Dade there are 824 ICU patients with an additional 148 beds available. ICU bed capacity is not 364, it is currently 972

And you can calculate the the 7 day rolling average for the bottom of that dashboard pdf.

They are not well beyond their capacity either or even at capacity with 15% remaining. It has been fluctuating between 15-20% remaining.

ETA the hospital system in Miami Dade is very very busy as they are in one of the worst local outbreak areas currently in the US. But the have plans for it and are handling it according to plan.
 
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VaderTron

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On the resort side of things, I recently got a 'flash sale' promo email from a DVC rental service I've subscribed to in the past. They usually say something along the lines of, "We have these couple of rooms available (minor discount). Act fast! These will be gone soon!" And usually they are gone within an hour or so.

This time the promo reads this way: "THERE ARE A TON OF RESORTS AVAILABLE".Then they list a number or DVC resorts and say either "most dates in sep and oct" or "every night in (name of month)". After listing several locations they self-truncate the list with "the list goes on...."

That's how empty the resorts are.

Not sure how long it's sustainable to operate under such conditions.
 
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