DisneyDebRob
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Do you think that Disney world will reclose its gates due to the rising number of COVID cases in Florida and around the country?
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Psst... I said TEXAS is increasing fast.
You do realize that Houston is just a portion of Texas?
It's too early to say whether Houston is flattening or declining, but there is indeed some reason to believe it is starting to flatten.
A couple weeks ago, Houston started strongly urging people to stay home. IOW...
Ready Harris
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They went to level 1, "stay home" recommendation.
if Disney World was in Houston, they would have been telling Disney World employees to stay home, not go to work.
Yes -- stay home orders flatten the curve.
So yes, you're absolutely right, if Florida closes unnecessary businesses like Disney World, then their hospitalization might start to bend in the right direction, just like Houston!
What that is telling you, is there is a large and inconsistent amount of lag in reporting of deaths.
Thus, you'd say most of the reporting from before June 30th is probably *almost totally complete.*
Reporting 7/1-7/7: Are probably mostly complete
From about 7/8-7/12: Probably more than half complete, but still missing up to half of deaths
7/13-present: Mostly incomplete
When it's all done, we will see a very steady rise from late June.... Potentially increasing for a long time.
Here are the IMHE updated projections on daily deaths in Florida --- Feel free to compare it to the above:
So based on current cases, hospitalizations and trends -- IHME expects daily deaths to continue to rise significantly, peaking sometime in August.
And without proper mitigation, actually not peaking... flattening slightly, and then continuing to increase through the end of the year.
finally? I have never said everything is fine.
Miss Bella
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Flu and other pandemics are never fine, but they are something we will always have. Isn’t it important for a healthcare system to be able to handle these surges or should we just shut everything down and put millions out of work every-time there is a new virus.I’m all for nurses getting bigger pay checks. But since it’s fine in Florida, I guess if it ever gets bad maybe they will see a increase.
As far as travel jobs go they are almost always plentiful in Florida especially in the Winter, but they are not as high paying as California or the Northeast. Florida’s motto is they pay you with Sunshine. Well sunshine may be a hard sell in July.
Psst... I said TEXAS is increasing fast.
You do realize that Houston is just a portion of Texas?
It's too early to say whether Houston is flattening or declining, but there is indeed some reason to believe it is starting to flatten.
A couple weeks ago, Houston started strongly urging people to stay home. IOW...
Ready Harris
www.readyharris.org
They went to level 1, "stay home" recommendation.
if Disney World was in Houston, they would have been telling Disney World employees to stay home, not go to work.
Yes -- stay home orders flatten the curve.
So yes, you're absolutely right, if Florida closes unnecessary businesses like Disney World, then their hospitalization might start to bend in the right direction, just like Houston!
ok , here is southeast (not just houston) texas hospitals dashboard (the hotspot in texas) from today, not just one hospital, looks pretty flat. Where is it "increasing fast"? If I add in the whole of the numbers looks even better.
The mayor advised stay at home, like you said was not an order, she doesn't have that power. After she made that order hospital admins in Houston said that they have plenty of capacity and that was over two weeks ago and they still have capacity.
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Miss Bella
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Exactly. As per usual for this thread it was taken out of context. I’m pretty sure plans are in place and have been for a long time.
Jrb1979
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You're just saying it's not bad enough be to close the parks again. I would tell you what so think but every time I bring up what is being done in whee I live so get mocked. So I will just continue to shake my head.
That is correct, my opinion is they do not need to close the parks at this time, more importantly many others have that same opinion, including Disney, local and state government, hospital admins etc. while others have differing opinions. and that is perfectly fine
Miss Bella
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Do you really think closing the parks would solve the problem? You do realize WDW has only been open for 5 days.
Again -- Houston is doing better BECAUSE they followed STAY HOME directive. (whether ordered or recommended, it's what people and businesses are doing).
Texas hospitalization is rising quickly --- the hot spot isn't so much Houston anymore, as multiple other spots in the state.
Here again, is the hospitalization curve for the state of Texas:
Does that look flat to you??
Me -- Here is the information for the entire state of Texas, showing massive increase in hospitalization.
You: No, you're wrong... here is information for just 1 park of Texas showing things are flat for the last week, in response to stay at home recommendations. And therefore, my conclusion is that Floridians don't need to stay at home.
That's what we call in the legal world, a non sequitur.
Miss Bella
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I’m curious how do we know they followed the directive?
Thank you!!! Yes!!!! See the evidence that Disney World should close, that you just posted!!!
Houston went to a "Stay Home" advisory in early July -- As a result, the hospitalization rate started to flatten in mid/late July!!!
Notice the massive increase before the effect of the Stay-Home recommendations!
So yes -- if a Stay Home order is issued, or a Stay Home recommendation is made that actually gets followed (non-essential businesses actually follow the recommendation and shut down) -- then hospitalizations flatten!!!
Thank you!!
Andrew C
You know what's funny?
Good question.
Miss Bella
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Did Walmart, Target and Costco close because if they didn’t I know people weren’t staying home.
You can actually examine mobility data from Apple... which tracks movement on people's iphones. The Apple data shows a clear decrease in mobility in Houston starting late June/early July. Not nearly as low as the mobility in April, when there was an actual shut down order. But a significant reduction from early June. Basically, a peak in activity in early June.
They didn't close in NY in response to a full stay home order. They are essential businesses.
You do know what a "Stay Home" order means? It means essential businesses operate, (those 3 stores all sell groceries, so they are all considered essential).
Miss Bella
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I know the difference, but one isn’t riskier than the other. There are still many non essential businesses open in Houston.
Jrb1979
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I do as it would help with stopping people from traveling to Florida and possibly bringing it back to where they live. There is a reason they aren't opening where I live.