Yes, AZ and TX doing the same , Florida seems to be tracking about a week are so behind them. Also south Florida antibodies are around 20% and that appears to be where burnout has happened in other states etc.
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Do you think that Disney world will reclose its gates due to the rising number of COVID cases in Florida and around the country?
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xdan0920
Think for yourselfer
Is this English?By doing nothing cause "MMM uummm I gots to work". Don't worry its only a matter of time til cases rise again cause NOTHING IS DONE TO SLOW THE SPREAD MMMMKAY.
JoeCamel
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NO, it is Canadian
Case positivity in Orange County has been on a downward trend , it is below 10% at 9.5% today , hospitalization capacity has improved as well. You can see it on the Florida DOH site that I linked a few pages back
eta link scroll down to Orange County
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DisneyCane
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Naked and not wearing pants are different. You could walk down the street in your underwear. Naked violates laws.
What city is that? Maybe civil fines but not criminal, in Florida for sure. In no state that I know of can any entity other than the state legislature pass criminal laws. Prosecutors all work for the state. When you go to court the charge (even for speeding tickets) is "State of Florida vs. Defendant."
Phil12
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I live in Florida and things are not getting better. It's getting worse all over the entire state:
www.clickorlando.com
Florida Department of Health reports over 12,000 new COVID-19 cases
The Florida Department of Health on Saturday reported 12,199 new cases of COVID-19 as well as 124 new deaths.
www.clickorlando.com
I live in Florida and things are not getting better. It's getting worse all over the entire state:
Florida Department of Health reports over 12,000 new COVID-19 cases
The Florida Department of Health on Saturday reported 12,199 new cases of COVID-19 as well as 124 new deaths.
without context sure it could appear that way, of that 12000 positive number , only 600 were in Orlando
xdan0920
Think for yourselfer
If you’re committed to lockdowns, you have to be committed to Florida growing “exponentially”. Otherwise, this whole house of cards comes crashing down.
FwIW. Lockdown happy Australia....
Jrb1979
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Cause you and @legwand77 keep saying things a getting better, which they aren't, so no measures need to be in place. I have constantly asked you and your buddy why the measures N.Y. and where I live can't be put in place. All I get is no answer just that things are better.
. Things aren't good, people shouldn't be traveling to Florida at the moment. Whatever happened to Florida promoting staycations?
Jedijax719
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10K-12K every single day is far from improving. Just because numbers don't climb exponentially doesn't mean they are in any way good.
Jrb1979
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NO ONE IS SAYING TO LOCKDOWN AGAIN. There is a middle ground. No wonder so many states have issues. They have Covidiots running the asylum. There is ways to open the economy slowly so you can keep cases low so you can handle spikes. I look at how where I live has done and other northern states have done their reopening and for the most part its working.
they are not climbing at all, and trending down a bit
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Let's be accurate. Australia has 145 deaths so far. That's 6 deaths per million people. They have done 151,000 tests per million people, and a total infection rate of 547 cases per million people. That graph certainly makes things look bad.. by making 500 look high!
Now, compared to the USA -- 149,000 death -- 1000x more than Australia. 160,000 tests per million people. so the USA finally recently caught up and surpassed Australia in testing, just barely. A total infection rate of 13,000 per million people.
So Australia -- 547 cases per million people. USA -- 13,000 cases per million. So USA has about 25x more infections on a per capita basis.
IHME -- https://covid19.healthdata.org/australia -- Forecasts Australia will have a total of 418 deaths by November 1st.
IHME forecasts the USA with 220,000 deaths by November 1st.
So "lockdown Australia" appears to be a true role model and a success story.
Jrb1979
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A bit but not enough. Again I ask why don't you ever respond to anyone mentioning measures that should be in place? What's it to you that Florida doesn't shutdown again?
Actually... many of the foremost experts in the US are now behind a full lockdown for a few weeks. Basically, a "do over" because we so failed to do the right lockdown in the first place.
But yes, nobody is saying we should go on a large scale lockdown forever.
It's - lockdown until infection is contained (a level where it's unlikely there would be infection entering the school, a level where you can contact trace the remaining cases that pop up); then masks and socially distanced "new normal"... with the ability to adjust specific regions based on testing. (with results of testing available in under 24 hours).
Precisely. You get to a point where infection and death is so high, it's not good for it to "stay level."
It's staying level because enough people in Florida have started to voluntarily take enough measures, to stop the climb. The more aggressive measures you take, the faster the numbers actually drop.
Jrb1979
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I have never said lockdown again. What's wrong with the way N.Y. has opened things?
oceanbreeze77
Well-Known Member
Nothing to see here. Everything is allllll goooodd
JoeCamel
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US is not Europe
US says no masks (some percentage) Europe they locked down hard in many places
Do I really need to go on? We are not Europe, this is not the flu etc....
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