Do you think that Disney world will reclose its gates due to the rising number of COVID cases in Florida and around the country?

[legwand77]

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Theres no metal detector or security screening that can single it out.

Alas, there is a covid test that we can run, some instant, much better than a metal detector. We can test for symptoms, temp check (closer to a metal detector), wear masks. There is nothing we can do to 100% prevent terrorism, maybe report unclaimed bags etc. but nothing as "effective" as a mask. The analogy falls apart rather quickly. plus soon we might have a vaccine , show me the vaccine for terrorism.

Also bemoaning attendants losing jobs and then in same breath saying shut down everything. Puzzling.

 

[legwand77]

We can also redirect meter maids and other non-armed law enforcement to handle mask citations, where can treated as non-criminal citations (ie they can impound your car or send it to collections but can't arrest you).

Meter maids, hello 1965

 

[oceanbreeze77]

Alas, there is a covid test that we can run, some instant, much better than a metal detector. We can test for symptoms, temp check (closer to a metal detector), wear masks. There is nothing we can do to 100% prevent terrorism, maybe report unclaimed bags etc. but nothing as "effective" as a mask. The analogy falls apart rather quickly. plus soon we might have a vaccine , show me the vaccine for terrorism.

Also bemoaning attendants losing jobs and then in same breath saying shut down everything. Puzzling.

but we are not testing at the level we should be. Current return times are averaging 7-10 days for results. So no, its not better than a metal detector right now.

Shutting non essential things down will slow the spread. When you slow the spread, you have less of the population getting infected, when that happens, we can start to get moving again.
As far as job loss goes, theres no avoiding it at this point. People are going to lose their job for the time being. But the sooner things are taken care of, the sooner our economy will get moving again, and the sooner people will be called back from furlough.

 

[DVCakaCarlF]

Alas, there is a covid test that we can run, some instant, much better than a metal detector. We can test for symptoms, temp check (closer to a metal detector), wear masks. There is nothing we can do to 100% prevent terrorism, maybe report unclaimed bags etc. but nothing as "effective" as a mask. The analogy falls apart rather quickly. plus soon we might have a vaccine , show me the vaccine for terrorism.

Also bemoaning attendants losing jobs and then in same breath saying shut down everything. Puzzling.

Because these are the same people that want to support the social systems (unemployment, teachers, public medicine), yet they have no way to pay for it or don’t want to accept responsibility for how to implement it.

 

[oceanbreeze77]

Because these are the same people that want to support the social systems (unemployment, teachers, public medicine), yet they have no way to lay for it or don’t want to accept responsibility for how to implement it.

well we do, but politics gets us in trouble.

 

[DVCakaCarlF]

but we are not testing at the level we should be. Current return times are averaging 7-10 days for results. So no, its not better than a metal detector right now.

Shutting non essential things down will slow the spread. When you slow the spread, you have less of the population getting infected, when that happens, we can start to get moving again.
As far as job loss goes, theres no avoiding it at this point. People are going to lose their job for the time being. But the sooner things are taken care of, the sooner our economy will get moving again, and the sooner people will be called back from furlough.

How is it you people can say “flatten the curve,” but you bemoan the number of cases? Wasn’t that idea that the case count was always going to be the same, just spread out?

If that’s the case, why close down the economy?

 

[DVCakaCarlF]

well we do, but politics gets us in trouble.

Well, it’s always someone else’s fault...

 

[legwand77]

but we are not testing at the level we should be. Current return times are averaging 7-10 days for results. So no, its not better than a metal detector right now.

Shutting non essential things down will slow the spread. When you slow the spread, you have less of the population getting infected, when that happens, we can start to get moving again.
As far as job loss goes, theres no avoiding it at this point. People are going to lose their job for the time being. But the sooner things are taken care of, the sooner our economy will get moving again, and the sooner people will be called back from furlough.

Ok that is different, now talking turnaround time

Current return times are averaging 7-10 days for results- - source? I am hearing more along 36 hours on average.

 

[DVCakaCarlF]

Ok that is different, now talking turnaround time

Current return times are averaging 7-10 days for results- - source? I am hearing more along 36 hours on average.

We should have an instant test.

 

[legwand77]

How is it you people can say “flatten the curve,” but you bemoan the number of cases? Wasn’t that idea that the case count was always going to be the same, just spread out?

If that’s the case, why close down the economy?

but then they also ask for more testing which will increase cases

 

[Miss Bella]

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[legwand77]

We should have an instant test.

we do have one , less than 15 minutes, maybe not as accurate but we do have one

 

[oceanbreeze77]

'The challenges that labs are facing are complex: Why COVID-19 test results are so delayed

From supply chain shortages to an overwhelming number of samples to test, U.S. laboratories are struggling to keep up.

www.nbcnews.com

Ok that is different, now talking turnaround time

Current return times are averaging 7-10 days for results- - source? I am hearing more along 36 hours on average.

 

[DVCakaCarlF]

but then they also ask for more testing which will increase cases

Doesn’t help when the positive test results are “dumped” from a backlog of two weeks without context.

 

[DVCakaCarlF]

we do have one , less than 15 minutes, maybe not as accurate but we do have one

Where?

 

[oceanbreeze77]

Ok that is different, now talking turnaround time

Current return times are averaging 7-10 days for results- - source? I am hearing more along 36 hours on average.

I also got tested and got my results 12 days later.

 

[oceanbreeze77]

Where?

Literally everywhere. But it sucks.

 

[Polkadotdress]

Yes, that is the point, selectively choosing the diseases to better make the chart makers point. Do the chart using US data bet you would be surprised. Next break it down by age groups be even more surprised. That chart has been around for months and has been "debunked" for those reasons.

My impression of that chart: it is eye-opening to see that in comparison to all of those other causes of death, many of which were already in the thousands (or more) in March, Covid quickly multiplied and grew from nothing to a level that overtook many of them—and they all had a “head start” for the year.

 

[Miss Bella]

Its not a stressor for me. In fact I am at the point it's comical to me seeing so many with their head in the sand and downplay the numbers. All I was trying to do was have civil conversations but it's come the point many of you either care more about visiting the Mouse or with your head in the sand.

I'm not trying to diminish your concerns. Although I disagree with you I think you're one of the more polite posters on this forum. I can only control what I can control which is myself and my teenage son. Yes, I can still control him LOL. We will wear our masks and follow all the rules. Promise.

 

[Miss Bella]

Sorry totally off-topic, but I'm watching a baseball game or I should say my husband has it on. It's not as weird as I thought it would be. The fake people are weird, but the crowd noise is kind of realistic.

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