Do you think that Disney world will reclose its gates due to the rising number of COVID cases in Florida and around the country?

[lisa12000]

As an aside - the UK all of a sudden took off 30,000 positive test results from the total a couple of weeks ago suggesting that there is a significant problem of double counting going on - still think its happening tbh and therefore we will have adjustments down in the future - and we actually think our figures are pretty robust.

We are also seemingly blanket testing hotspot area (such as Leicester) by going door too door and either swabbing there and then or giving home test kits to everyone - which will always garner more positives than waiting for people to come forward with symptoms but is being politicised by the media as 'second wave' - oh and they also publish a league table of shame of councils where positive cases are going up! and headlining them as "these are the places to next go into local lockdown' - I cannot even tell you how much my area of the UK lives in fear (I wont say that about all places as I dont know) - people only talk about deaths. cases, second wave, masks and bully and abuse people who are exempt from wearing masks even though as today they aren't mandatory - god help us on the 24th when they are

 

[Miss Bella]

Clearly then, you’ve never worked in guest service. Wasn’t there just a notable news story about a guy who rode a Universal attraction and subsequently had a heart attack and died, yet the family is trying to blame Uni since the warning sign wasn’t in Spanish?

Or...there are countless stories about families who leave their purse/wallet/camera in a stroller parked outside an attraction and are shocked when their items are stolen.

OHHH! And there was one time we were riding on the Backlot Tour, and the guy in front of us dropped his iPhone over the edge of the tram during the shaking part of Catastrophe Canyon. He was distraught, because he couldn't get the attention of the Cast Member who was riding in the front of the tram (we were 2nd car from the back). We stuck around after exiting, and heard him GO OFF on the Cast Member since his phone was gone, and that Disney needed to replace it since he didn't know the shaking on the tram would be that bad AND they didn't bother to stop the tram to have it retrieved.

I could go on...

Yeah there will be some morons who will try to blame Disney, but the general public won’t side with them. It’s like swimming in the ocean and getting bitten by a shark or pulled under by a rip tide and trying to sue the city.. You made a choice, you knew the risks end of story.

 

[mickeymiss]

I don't want to see this Orlando report get buried. It's slowly creeping into the media ciruclation. The public deserves to know the real numbers.

 

[Jrb1979]

I look at what they have done where I live in reopening things and a lot of you would lose you mind. We are starting to get into our last stage and just about everything is open now with limited capacity. Theme parks aren't allowed to open and any place that involves large gatherings can't open either. That will stay in play til either a vaccine or better treatment comes along.

 

[DisneyCane]

I look at what they have done where I live in reopening things and a lot of you would lose you mind. We are starting to get into our last stage and just about everything is open now with limited capacity. Theme parks aren't allowed to open and any place that involves large gatherings can't open either. That will stay in play til either a vaccine or better treatment comes along.

Where do you live?

 

[Andrew C]

Where do you live?

You don’t know yet?!?! Ontari-ari-ari-o!!!

 

[mickey0825]

Multiple testing labs over reporting their numbers by 900% is a big deal. Good for xdan catching this earlier.

This is really scary......if true these numbers may be highly overinflated

 

[schuelma]

Tuesday numbers are out. 9K new cases. A record 132 deaths, and positivity rate jumped to over 15%

Link

 

[The Mom]

No politics. Thank you.

 

[havoc315]

Thanks, yes @Monorail_Orange explained that to me. If the total number of tests are under reported because some labs aren't reporting negative tests in that number and only positive tests are being reported then I see where the overall positivity rate would be inflated. I am curious as to how many labs are doing that and to what extent.

That's not actually happening. Some laypeople simply looked at the data without understanding it.

There may be labs that are reporting in different batches... and therefore reporting certain positive results all at once. But ultimately, they are reporting the results of ALL tests.

 

[havoc315]

Tuesday numbers are out. 9K new cases. A record 132 deaths, and positivity rate jumped to over 15%

Link

There is some evidence that Florida has his a case plateau.. but it's not yet clear. Give the case count another week.

But certainly, deaths lag cases. Especially in Florida -- where they use a system where deaths aren't generally immediately reporting, and thus have more delay in death reporting than some other states. As a result, deaths in Florida still have definitely not his their peak. At least on weekdays, deaths of 100+ per day will be the norm for a while.. possibly much higher. It wouldn't be shocking to see that number could rise to hundreds of deaths per day, we just don't really know.

 

[Rider]

KFC closes company-owned dining rooms in Florida because of coronavirus

KFC is closing down its company-owned dining rooms in Florida as the restaurant industry continues to adjust to the growing number of coronavirus cases in the state. “Due to the continued esc…

www.orlandosentinel.com

 

[marni1971]

Demings: âI will not hesitateâ to close theme parks, other businesses in Orange County if linked to COVID-19 outbreaks

Hong Kong Disneyland will close its gates once again due to a second COVID-19 outbreak, but the company said that will not affect any other business operations, such as the Disney parks in and around Orange County.

www.wftv.com

 

[BASS]

That's the thing. People are believing and parroting that all masks work. They think the bandana works and the homemade T-shirt masks work. I thought N95 masks were completely effective until this doctor said they weren't and then I wonder what to believe. That doesn't make any one ignorant. It's what the media has been confusing us about since March.

My point is you won't find too many people out in public thinking that the doily on their face isn't working. They think it is 100%.

This sounds like a strawman. I don't know how many folks actually believe that masks are 100% preventative. Not to be crude, but that's like saying that sex with a condom or birth control is 100% effective to prevent pregnancy. We know that's not the case. But we know that condom or birth control is better than nothing at all. Same applies here.

 

[BASS]

I doubt anybody with half a brain is going to blame Disney for something that was their choice to do.

This is not accurate. I'm an attorney. Plenty of folks do plenty of dumb things and then sue later. Remember, there's always an attorney out there that'll take a case. I'm not arguing with you in the sense that I too believe that personal responsibility and accountability matters. But the legal system does not always view it that strictly.

If I had to spin this . . . "I was concerned about going to Disney. However, I read all about the measures that Disney took to combat the virus and was lulled into thinking that my family could safely enjoy a vacation. Unfortunately, I was mistaken."

These will not be good cases IMO b/c it will be very, very difficult to prove that someone contracted the virus at Disney, but that doesn't mean there isn't an attorney out there that won't try. It'll happen.

 

[mickeymiss]

Demings: âI will not hesitateâ to close theme parks, other businesses in Orange County if linked to COVID-19 outbreaks

Hong Kong Disneyland will close its gates once again due to a second COVID-19 outbreak, but the company said that will not affect any other business operations, such as the Disney parks in and around Orange County.

www.wftv.com

That's reasonable. It goes without saying that everyone hopes the park stays healthy. There is a difference between a person testing positive and an oubreak. It benefits us all to have data to help ensure places that take it seriously are successful. I think we all want slivers of hope that some ordinary living can be made safe. Especially if no vaccine or cure is in the pipeline.

 

[legwand77]

More info keeps coming out about case positivity, reported 98% positivity but in reality only 9.4%, another reported 76% vs 6 % reality. That would skew statewide numbers heavily.

The report showed that Orlando Health had a 98 percent positivity rate. However, when FOX 35 News contacted the hospital, they confirmed errors in the report. Orlando Health's positivity rate is only 9.4 percent, not 98 percent as in the report.

The report also showed that the Orlando Veteran’s Medical Center had a positivity rate of 76 percent. A spokesperson for the VA told FOX 35 News on Tuesday that this does not reflect their numbers and that the positivity rate for the center is actually 6 percent.

FOX 35 INVESTIGATES: Florida Department of Health says some labs have not reported negative COVID-19 results

The Florida Department of Health released its daily coronavirus testing report showing a statewide positivity rate of 11 percent, but FOX 35 News investigated and quickly noticed some shocking positivity rates.

www.fox35orlando.com

Pretty much makes the state positivity numbers not that accurate. Bad error to be making. Especially watching it fluctuate in the 10-20% is pointless.

 

[hopemax]

More info keeps coming out about case positivity, reported 98% positivity but in reality only 9.4%, another reported 76% vs 6 % reality. That would skew statewide numbers heavily.

The report showed that Orlando Health had a 98 percent positivity rate. However, when FOX 35 News contacted the hospital, they confirmed errors in the report. Orlando Health's positivity rate is only 9.4 percent, not 98 percent as in the report.

The report also showed that the Orlando Veteran’s Medical Center had a positivity rate of 76 percent. A spokesperson for the VA told FOX 35 News on Tuesday that this does not reflect their numbers and that the positivity rate for the center is actually 6 percent.

FOX 35 INVESTIGATES: Florida Department of Health says some labs have not reported negative COVID-19 results

The Florida Department of Health released its daily coronavirus testing report showing a statewide positivity rate of 11 percent, but FOX 35 News investigated and quickly noticed some shocking positivity rates.

www.fox35orlando.com

Pretty much makes the state positivity numbers not that accurate. Bad error to be making. Especially watching it fluctuate in the 10-20% is pointless

I posted in the other thread, but I'll repost numbers here. First, the numbers in the report are cumulative, since the start of the pandemic.

In today's report, the Orlando Health line says:

10 negative, 512 positive, 98% positivity

I can modify the URL of the report to go back to the 6/28 report and on the Orlando Health line says:

10 negative, 497 positive, 98%

So in 16 days, Orlando Health recorded an additional 15 positives. That's it. That makes no sense given the size of Orlando Health. That implies to me that these "aren't the test numbers we think they are." I don't know what these 100% lines represent. Maybe specific department, or even specific patient?

For the Orlando Veteran's from the 6/28 report:

32 negative, 51 positive

Today: 32, 101 positive

So a total of 50 new positives over 16 days or about 3 per day.

With these types of daily increases, even if there are missing negatives, they only represent a tiny bit of the overall tests that have run over the course of 4 months. No one should doubt that the daily positivity numbers are wildly inaccurate. For every 100,000 "missing" negatives, the overall positivity (over the whole pandemic) changes about .28%.

 

[legwand77]

The little bit of good news is Orange county dropped below 10% positivity at 9.4%. Lowest it has been in over two weeks. Might even be a tick lower with the reporting anomalies.

 

[legwand77]

I posted in the other thread, but I'll repost numbers here. First, the numbers in the report are cumulative, since the start of the pandemic.

In today's report, the Orlando Health line says:

10 negative, 512 positive, 98% positivity

I can modify the URL of the report to go back to the 6/28 report and on the Orlando Health line says:

10 negative, 497 positive, 98%

So in 16 days, Orlando Health recorded an additional 15 positives. That's it. That makes no sense given the size of Orlando Health. That implies to me that these "aren't the test numbers we think they are." I don't know what these 100% lines represent. Maybe specific department, or even specific patient?

For the Orlando Veteran's from the 6/28 report:

32 negative, 51 positive

Today: 32, 101 positive

So a total of 50 new positives over 16 days or about 3 per day.

With these types of daily increases, even if there are missing negatives, they only represent a tiny bit of the overall tests that have run over the course of 4 months. No one should doubt that the daily positivity numbers are wildly inaccurate. For every 100,000 "missing" negatives, the overall positivity (over the whole pandemic) changes about .28%.

yes over the pandemic, but aren't the percentages calculated daily not cumulative. So leaving off the negatives in the daily percentage would be much higher. Over time yes it would not change much but in then daily slice it would.

Orlando health said their positivity is 9.4% with 1-15 positives that would leave anywhere from 50 to 100 negatives not in the calculation for the day.

All that said in the south florida area things are not good. Would not surprise me if they rollback to stay at home