Oh also:
Maybe six months ago a couple posters floated the idea. I'll have to see if I can find them. I even responded and asked if they were serious. They were and laid out that moving the rides to Texas was not as expensive as people though and Disney would make more money long term because of Texas tax incentives.
While not even in the same zip code as that, I will say that a lot of people including yourself were pessimistic about Disney's future investment in Anaheim due to "overbearing California politics." That obviously isn't the case.
The future of Disney in Anaheim looks bright...at least in the way of dollars spent. What actually is built, maybe not so much. Hopefully those are copy and paste placeholders, however I'm pessimistic on that front. WDI was gutted in terms of talent. Clones of already designed attractions feels inevitable.
Perfect time for Disney to announce something like this given how hard the area has been hit economically. Puts pressure on all of the governmental stakeholders.
That's really the right takeaway here. Long-term zoning changes are the goal here, and there's no time like the present to push them through, considering what the pandemic has done to Anaheim's budget.I simply read this as "Please zone/rezone the areas we occupy with a basic envelope so that if/when we decide to develop or redevelop we can do so with little hassle." Basically Resort District 2.0 .
But is there evidence that California and Anaheim specifically are actually supportive yet?
Disney's ultimate goal here is to get the old 1993 Disneyland Resort Specific Plan updated to allow them to put whatever type of zoning they want anywhere on the property without being forced to only build specific things in specific places (hence why they haven't expanded DCA or Disneyland to the west side of Disneyland Dr.). This concept art we are seeing is one possible scenario that updating the DRSP would allow them to do. Even if the city and Disney can mutually agree on an updated DRSP, it doesn't necessarily mean they will expand the parks exactly like they are showing in the concept art. They are just telling the public, "Hey, this could be what we get if Disney and Anaheim can mutually agree on terms for the DRSP."So basically, they don't know what they want to do or if they want to actually do anything, but the city is desperate enough to approve anything right now so better to get a rubber stamp on any possible plans now before things go back to normal and the city starts to change their views on Disney again.
So what’s the worst case bait and switch here?It is Re-Zoning/New Specific Plan, ignore the Shiny stuff!
>>“We’re not announcing anything specific today as part of DisneylandForward,” Lomboy said. “These kinds of projects should give you a flavor of the types of industry-defining integrated experiences and story-rich lands that we want to bring to Anaheim.”<<
Disneyland unveils plans for theme park, retail and parking expansion
DisneylandForward is Disney’s effort to work with the city to grow the Disneyland resort, update the blueprint for the resort district and propel Anaheim’s economic rebound following the COVID-19 p…www.ocregister.com
Ah, okay. You're talking about the types of kids in their mom's basement who pre-Covid thought Disney has secretly bought 5,000 acres for a new resort in Texas (and their cousin knows the realtor who worked on the plan!), and post-Covid now think they're going to pack up Anaheim's Pirates of the Caribbean and the Matterhorn and rebuild them on that property in Texas.
Those types of kids have been on the Internet for decades talking about Texas. And when their school is closed and they can ignore their Zoom lessons, they have nothing else to do but post that kind of stuff again and again.
As for the business woes caused by Sacramento, I don't think anyone thought they'd last forever. And it's surprising how quickly things turn around once the Recall got enough signatures to trigger an election this fall. Oops!
So what’s the worst case bait and switch here?
There is no bait and switch here. People are seeing the concept art and not reading anything and assuming this is the plan. It's not. The plan is to rezone the area to let Disney do what they want on their property. I hope they expand the parks, but there's nothing here guaranteeing they will.So what’s the worst case bait and switch here?
If they move that fountain off-center for the new bridge over Disneyland Drive, I can't wait to be a part of the discussion on how New Orleans Square is nothing but a ruined environment of off-center architecture! Let's hope Kim Irvine in a hard hat is also involved.
Should I start the Expansion Bridge Ruins New Orleans Square! thread now, or maybe wait a day or two?
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Perfect time for Disney to announce something like this given how hard the area has been hit economically. Puts pressure on all of the governmental stakeholders.
Is that outlining attractions or just everything related to that park's operations?Oh also:
It is if Disney convinces the city to approve based on “hey we’re going to build more theme park” and then they do something else with the land. I understand the specifics dont exist.There is no bait and switch here. People are seeing the concept art and not reading anything and assuming this is the plan. It's not. The plan is to rezone the area to let Disney do what they want on their property. I hope they expand the parks, but there's nothing here guaranteeing they will.
Hey, a theme park in Texas would be great. Don't knock it!
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