the.dreamfinder
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Regarding Cars 2, I would call it a really good Saturday morning cartoon. I know that's probably what the suits who strong armed Pixar into making it probably wanted, that's what it is.
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Disney(World) vs. Disney(land)?
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Brewmaster
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Why the Pixies of course, or the lesser important but always exciting (because you can drink during the ceremony) The Golden Globes
Pumbas Nakasak
Heading for the great escape.
Some folk may like that warm feeling you get from visiting a familiar friend, then some folk like the warm feeling you get when you pish your pants. Visiting the Orlando area attractions has become stale for me, over familiarity with the same old things coupled with diminishing quality has eroded the enjoyment. However I have tried the West Coast and will be returning in a few weeks, I have to say that while I enjoyed the attractions I just didnt see the Disney utopia that some describe. I am looking forward to experiencing Cars land, but the main thing is Disney is an add on to our trip unlike Orlando where it is the primary focus.
As for Paris, nice eye candy but very little else, plus it is near Paris, the New York of Europe.
As for Paris, nice eye candy but very little else, plus it is near Paris, the New York of Europe.
the.dreamfinder
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Quoted for concurrence. Don't forget Tokyo!!
unkadug
Follower of "Saget"The Cult
The problem lies in the fact that the vast majority of guests are once in a lifetime (or every 3-4 year) visitors. They don't know the difference in what it once was or should have become, nor the alternatives.
TDO continues to play off of this ignorance to the betterment of their own personal interests instead of the interest of the better good.
Hopefully this "spirited change" will eventually resolve this ongoing problem.
Longhairbear
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Disneyland almost lost it's monorail a few years back, before the new ones there now. I forget the whole story, but it involved having to make new trains that fit the beam. At the time the then execs at DLR were ready to scrap the monorail altogether. DLR has all new trains on the beam now, but there was an awful lot of lawyering that basically kept the windows closed, and with no AC on board, guests were being cooked alive on the ride from DTD into DL. My point being that DLR kept the monorail, and fixed it's problems and probably paid dearly for it. WDW should do the same.
I have asked myself that as well as I live somewhere where there is a huge Siemens presence. First of all, I think Siemens really isn't very much involved in the monorail business (a quick research only found two which they ever built - both are suspended monorails). So I guess they have no interest in developing a totally new product which does not seem to be a big seller worldwide while they do great at the moment selling trams, light-railway, metros and high-speed trains. BUT one thing I have thought for a long time is that WDW would be perfect for a tram/trolley/light-railway system (whatever you might want to call it) and that is certainly something which Siemens could sell them - and maybe tries to do so? And I am sure that if Disney took the money to customise the trains and theme them, those could be pretty cool looking and not remind anyone of a standard commuter train, even if they travel on the ground and not up in the air.
Its the accent. Apparently they all like the accent.Funny how when you say Avatar is no slam dunk for ever happening, no one gets on your British over it.
But if I say it or even ex-Imagineer Lee does, we get slammed.
I know you sir (happily) and you are no better than us!
Though I've yet to meet a female with whom it hits just the right place...
the.dreamfinder
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Bolna, a light rail system would probably be the best way to replace the terrible bus system. An added benefit that I just recalled from my experiences on light rails is the lack of an engine in the back which should make it possible to put in a stronger AC system. I understand that Siemens doesn't do a tremendous amount of business in monorails compared to say Bombadier. However I do think from their perspective, having their monorail system as WDW's monorail would have a very positive effect on that business for them. Especially if they can put in a good AC system
Pumbas Nakasak
Heading for the great escape.
Its the accent. Apparently they all like the accent.
Though I've yet to meet a female with whom it hits just the right place...
Do you know Dick Van ?
Schtep in tyme!
Quoted for correctness plus giggle factor.
Pumbas Nakasak
Heading for the great escape.
Had you more figured as a Chas n Dave sort of Guy, cause with Disney "there aint no pleasin you"
Bolna, a light rail system would probably be the best way to replace the terrible bus system. An added benefit that I just recalled from my experiences on light rails is the lack of an engine in the back which should make it possible to put in a stronger AC system. I understand that Siemens doesn't do a tremendous amount of business in monorails compared to say Bombadier. However I do think from their perspective, having their monorail system as WDW's monorail would have a very positive effect on that business for them. Especially if they can put in a good AC system
I am just not sure whether there really is any future in monorails anywhere. They do look great, but they require expensive infrastructure (beams as well as specific stations), have a huge evacuation problem and for Siemens they would need to develop a totally new product. And with their track record of new products, I would not advise WDW to be the guinea pig, the German railways had some very unfortunate experiences with the high speed trains they were the first to buy from Siemens. Supposedly the later ones they sold to Russia are way better - because from what they learned from the first ones...
I have no idea whether the placement of the engine has anything to do with the AC, but I can assure you that in the high speed trains Siemens built the AC would definitely be considered adequate even from an American point of view: I usually bring an extra fleece as they are so cold!!
My biggest issue with the current monorails is the internal set-up which just is not designed in a way that handles larger crowds easily. The set-up into compartments is just plain madness! I think they need to have trains that you can walk through like this Munich underground train (which was built by Siemens). Siemens also as a new feature for their underground trains which eliminates any gap between train and platform which I think would be just perfect for WDW with the many strollers and ECVs...
TP2000
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I agree, and the compartment-less monorail trains can be done. The Seattle Monorail, built in 1962 by Alweg, the same Swiss company who built the Disneyland Monorail three years earlier in 1959, is as wide and tall as the WDW monorails. But the larger Seattle trains that Alweg built are open from one end of the train to the other, carrying hundreds of passengers along the beams over the streets of downtown Seattle.
The Seattle Monorail System - Still In Daily Operation 50 Years After It Opened
A similar setup would seem to work wonderfully for the WDW trains. And the glassier windows of the Seattle trains would be a nice upgrade too.
alissafalco
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Yes, I totally agree! They could theme them to look exactly like the monorail cars. Honestly, I would like that even better than the monorail high above. I always get a little nervous when I look out and see how high we are off the ground.
Scuttle
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I agree. If they want to give DHS a big, new toy, make it something themed on The Incredibles
Ya to bad Disney botched the rights to the KUKA arm because the incredibles ride they had planned sounded amazing.
jt04
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All of them.
jt04
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You really should be paying royalties to Al Lutz and Martin. Lee seems to give you information because he feels sorry for you.
FrankLapidus
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If Disney let Lasseter walk out of that company, we might as well all pack up and go home now. Iger has already dealt his hand and announced his intention to walk away so if it ever did come down to a choice between the two, it would make absolutely no sense for the board not to choose one of the most creative minds around today, one that is dragging WDAS out of the doldrums and I'm sure could do the same at theme parks in years to come. I really wish Disney would go back to the Eisner/Wells-type management structure where one handles the financial faculties of the company (aka the boring but important stuff) while the other handles the creative side of things. When Disney operated like that, everything was golden but Wells sadly passed away, Katzenberg walked out and then there was the Michael Ovitz debacle which all led the way to Eisner's meltdown and eventual ouster. But I don't see why a two-pronged management made up of two executives whose qualities compliment each other, like Eisner and Wells, couldn't work again.