Disney(World) vs. Disney(land)?

[Animaniac93-98]

I believe part of the reason people "avoid" Disneyland (or other non-WDW Disney vacations) is the limited goals they set for themselves when visiting a Disney park. If all you want to do is get your kids picture taken with Mickey and ride Splash Mountain, why should you care if another park does it differently? For that matter, why should you care if Disney makes cuts to "details" like LoW or fixing the Yeti, or if they keep raising prices? You still had your needs met, right?

 

[tirian]

To be fair.. A side trip can be very expensive. Hitting usf after our cruise cost me about 1k extra. That isn't funny money

Be careful; I once said that and got flamed for it. When Potter 2 and Transformers open, USF Resort (UOR? USFR? USSR?) will be worth the price charged. IMHO, only Potter 1 is currently at a Disney level of immersion.

But wow, the Forbidden Journey is such an incredible ride! I'll have to invest in a Florida resident AP just to experience it more often.

 

[ChrisFL]

Just the bare facts, and the art that Lee (I think) posted of the arms running in open air on top of the PM tracks)

Hey LEE, do you recall such a post? I wanna see it!!

 

[Lee]

Just the bare facts, and the art that Lee (I think) posted of the arms running in open air on top of the PM tracks)

This one?
It didn't originate with me, but it is pretty cool.

 

[the.dreamfinder]

This one?
It didn't originate with me, but it is pretty cool.
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That image was by the guy who's Show Producer for Shanghai's TL, he was a featured speaker at The Marty Sklar Variety Show at last year's D23(The actual title was Imagineering''s Guide to Creativity and Innovation, but it was basically Marty calling up Imagineers to tell stories about their work). It was probably the most criminally ignored panels.
Video of the panel:http://www.mouseinfo.com/forums/con...ty-innovation-presentation-d23-expo-2011.html

EDIT: The artist's name is Scot Drake.

 

[FrankLapidus]

Yes they have a five year exclusive, but if I'm not mistaken they have an option for another 5 year contract extension. The ride was to be in Hollywood Studios and was going to use the KUKA arm and would let riders choose there level of "incredible" intensity. Which would be a perfect ride idea for the KUKA and would use it's engineering to it's full potential. I wish I knew more as well.

I hadn't heard of this before but after reading up on it, it does sound like it would make for an interesting attraction. Failing that, I wonder whether there could be an attraction based on The Incredibles that incorporates the different super powers featured in the film such as speed, ice and invincibility, an attraction that was immersive and used different environments to show off the different powers. I'm not sure how they would build something like that (or if they could) or even how to describe it properly but I think any attraction based on The Incredibles has the potential to be great.

 

[the.dreamfinder]

Lee, is there any chance that Disneyland's TL will look like that concept as part of its new E-Ticket?

 

[Lee]

Lee, is there any chance that Disneyland's TL will look like that concept as part of its new E-Ticket?

Doubt it.
Highly unlikely the Peoplemover track ever gets used again.

 

[Californian Elitist]

Tony Baxter said the Peoplemover won't be coming back. I hope they either tear the track down or use it for something. Tired of it just sitting there.

 

[ChrisFL]

Tony Baxter said the Peoplemover won't be coming back. I hope they either tear the track down or use it for something. Tired of it just sitting there.

I understand WHY its not coming back, but it is sad.

I'm glad that WDW's is still there, being one of my favorite attractions.

 

[AmongMadPeople]

I havent seen this posted yet:
http://mobile.businessweek.com/articles/2012-08-09/bob-iger-on-disney-california-adventure

First time I've actually heard Iger mention, "Universal did a good job with Harry Potter. It’s had a modest impact on our business in Florida."

Whoa! Did this interview just start out with Iger calling Disneyland the Magic Kingdom? Is he really that disconnected from P&R, or is this really bad copy?

 

[Californian Elitist]

Whoa! Did this interview just start out with Iger calling Disneyland the Magic Kingdom? Is he really that disconnected from P&R, or is this really bad copy?

Disneyland IS the Magic Kingdom. It's a nickname and Florida borrowed it. It's been called the Magic Kingdom since it opened.

 

[Californian Elitist]

I understand WHY its not coming back, but it is sad.

I'm glad that WDW's is still there, being one of my favorite attractions.

I just wish Californians would leave it alone already. It's not coming back, we need to move on.

 

[AmongMadPeople]

Disneyland IS the Magic Kingdom. It's a nickname and Florida borrowed it. It's been called the Magic Kingdom since it opened.

I just haven't seen it called the Magic Kingdom by fans or Disney itself. Am I disconnected from west coast local slang?

 

[ChrisFL]

I just haven't seen it called the Magic Kingdom by fans or Disney itself. Am I disconnected from west coast local slang?

Its always been a second name...Walt himself I believe used the term "The Magic Kingdom of Disneyland" on one of the TV specials

 

[Californian Elitist]

I just haven't seen it called the Magic Kingdom by fans or Disney itself. Am I disconnected from west coast local slang?

Have you been to Disneyland? That would explain the reason you haven't heard it being called the Magic Kingdom. It's not slang, Disneyland is referred to as the Magic Kingdom. Look up old Disneyland videos when Walt Disney was alive. Disneyland was being referred to as both Disneyland and the Magic Kingdom. It still is referred to as that.

 

[NoChesterHester]

The Disneyland Railroad spiel also refers to the park as "Walt Disney's Magic Kingdom."

 

[El Grupo]

Have you been to Disneyland? That would explain the reason you haven't heard it being called the Magic Kingdom. It's not slang, Disneyland is referred to as the Magic Kingdom. Look up old Disneyland videos when Walt Disney was alive. Disneyland was being referred to as both Disneyland and the Magic Kingdom. It still is referred to as that.

You are absolutely correct. However, in 20+ visits to DL over several years, I never heard it referred to as the Magic Kingdom. Ironically, in 12+ years at Disney offices at Burbank, my wife never heard folks call the Anaheim park by that name.

I'm curious if many who joined during Eisner's era even know about this history.

 

[Taylor]

This kind of goes with what people are saying about DL MK and name. Have any of you guys ever wonder what the original WDW would look like if Walt was alive and designed it. Because MK wasn't his decision was it?

 

[lazyboy97o]

I agree, and the compartment-less monorail trains can be done. The Seattle Monorail, built in 1962 by Alweg, the same Swiss company who built the Disneyland Monorail three years earlier in 1959, is as wide and tall as the WDW monorails. But the larger Seattle trains that Alweg built are open from one end of the train to the other, carrying hundreds of passengers along the beams over the streets of downtown Seattle.

The Seattle Monorail System - Still In Daily Operation 50 Years After It Opened

A similar setup would seem to work wonderfully for the WDW trains. And the glassier windows of the Seattle trains would be a nice upgrade too.

The Seattle Monorail has slightly larger trains that run on a larger beam. I think it'd be hard to switch to an Alweg Large/Hitatchi style train without serious rebuilding of the Walt Disney World system.

EDIT: The artist's name is Scot Drake.

The same guy who headed up the Mark VII Monorail project.

Have any of you guys ever wonder what the original WDW would look like if Walt was alive and designed it. Because MK wasn't his decision was it?

He agreed to another theme park but all he ever showed was an exact copy of Disneyland.