News Disney Not Renewing Great Movie Ride Sponsorship Deal with TCM ; Attraction to Close

uncle jimmy

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The GMR is about 2 1/2 years away. The MK though won't be nearly that bad. They primarily want GMR open for SWL.

Though of course they could just build it somewhere else and have two high capacity attractions ready for SWL. But that would be daft.
Is this ride going to be similar to anything or is this going to be something brand new?
 

JSchnitz

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What I don't get is why wouldn't they want to keep the GMR in place to tie up all these random movie lands? If they are going to be this sporadic, at least have one attraction that can connect them all. And if I'm not mistaken, aren't they ALL already represented in the ride finale?
 

PrincessJulia1207

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i love this ride and even though it definitely needs alot alot alot of TLC i would be saddened if it closed because i love classic films

the only thing that would make this okay for me was if it focused on mickey (and friends) making their way into classic films (for example mickey and minnie reenacting the ending of Casablanca; Goofy or Donald doing "Make 'Em Laugh" from Singin' in the rain; Mickey as Indiana jones, etc.)

This way, it would make sense for the ride to be in the Chinese theater with the classic film actor handprints outside and the preshow setup with the prop display cases and the big movie screen
 

UpAllNight

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The ride system will be very similar to Antarctica / Honey Hunt / Rat (and SWL Alcatraz)

The ride experience will be familiar to several attractions already in existence. And should have a few nods to the current GMR layout.
The tech isn't exactly new so why will WDW be going from famine to feast with their use of it all of a sudden. Not complaining, but after taking 20 years to make something that, technologically, can even put up a fight against Spider-Man, and we get 3 within a year?
 

PrincessJulia1207

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I hope some of the sets and animatronics get salvaged and repurposed in some form. A walk through exhibit would be cool though unlikely (Unless TCM wanted to pay for it :D).

Even just a restaurant though where you can eat in different rooms like Wizard of Oz, the Alien ship, Mary Poppins scene, and the Gangster room would be awesome.
i would love this!!!! please though

Since Disney loves making money, once GMR closes, they should open it up for a few weeks and allow people to pay and play paintball inside. I always think to myself how fun it would be to do this.
if there really is no hope of GMR being saved, i would pay big money to do this
 
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PrincessJulia1207

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I am so bummed. Really bummed. I thought maybe, just maybe, it would get some TLC after Toy Story and Star Wars came out. I'm a classic film buff (working on the AFI's lists right now), and this attraction was special to me.

Might as well say it, calling dibs on the Singin' in the Rain and Casablanca scenes... If I can't get Rick and Ilsa, I definitely want Gene Kelly.
same girl same
 

Kman101

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Tim Tracker, who is normally very positive in regards to Disney, highlighted the issues with DHS in a video this past month. He couldn't make Fastpass selections so went to DHS without them, and by like 10am everything was 60-90 mins. His views echoed my own from 2015. At one point we genuinely looked at each other and discussed if these kind of holidays were for us. We were queuing 70 minutes for Rock n Rollercoaster at 9am...there's endless possibilities for a holiday and there we were in the sweltering heat queuing pretty much all day. We're British if there's one thing we're used too it's a queue! We didn't get this feeling at any other park despite obviously having to wait at times....you expect it in Florida, we're not deluded. But DHS was worse than any other park for It. There was a 50 minute queue to meet Mickey, and that was one of the smallest in the park.

I think all the other parks offered relief...yeah a ride might have a 120 min queue at some points (7 dwarves etc) but there were other options and crowds would shift so there'd be times where that'd drop to 60/70...at DHS the queues were relentless all day....and there just wasn't enough to see to keep us occupied in the meantime...the nature trails in AK provided that...MK and Epcot are huge...Islands and Uni have tons of E-tickets, Seaworld is big and was quieter, and also had the animal exhibits....same as Busch.

DHS was a complete mess and I can't see how Star Wars Land and Toy Story will solve this alone. They'll help no doubt in giving guests more options, but these are 2 HUGE IPs...which will bring even bigger crowds, making this parks problems even worse.
This. So much. I'm almost considering skipping my planned day there this week. I actually love this little park, have a bit of personal nostalgic attachement to it, I just enjoy it there, but was seriously wondering why I was bothering. But now with the GMR news, I'm going. Thankfully though I was able to snag fastpasses for my day there so that helps. If I didn't have FP's? Probably wouldn't (although again, the GMR news would of changed that).
 

Kman101

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What I don't get is why wouldn't they want to keep the GMR in place to tie up all these random movie lands? If they are going to be this sporadic, at least have one attraction that can connect them all. And if I'm not mistaken, aren't they ALL already represented in the ride finale?
That's the million dollar question, isn't it? The parks are run by people who just don't "get it" and this decision proves that a million times over.
 

Kman101

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I've done the online map research - The guest area of DHS is NOT 154 acres, more like 70 acres, give or take a couple. No amount of fanboi wishing or "official facts book" quoting will change that.

Attendance will jump. No one is saying otherwise. But, you are saying that two SW attractions and a Slinky coaster is going to translate to 10 MILLION MORE guests annually at DHS. Just wanted to clarify that, thanks.
I think there's probably a reason I have said poster on ignore ...
 

matt9112

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True, but it was moved for more than one reason. American Idol needed to go. Premiere Theater is obviously no longer available. The new location is much better suited for the crowds, the show quality is better there too. It's not perfect by any means, but it's a solid contribution to the park and it's never had an empty seat in the dozens of times I've attended a showing (which is more than I can say about Indy or BatB despite them being superior offerings).

Frankly, I only attend to see the storytellers. One of my favorite guilty pleasures!
I agree except your never empty comment is a little skewed because I could argue what else are people going to do ahaha
 

matt9112

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Honestly as long as people keep paying $100 to get into a half a park, they are in o rush to bring things back online... if attendance suddenly dropped they would be more amenable to fixing things faster... I think the current TDO philosophy is "As long as people are paying, why bother?"
True....sadly I love TOT so I still go but with an AP ofcourse.
 

RSoxNo1

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To be fair, years back, there were plans for the work at DHS to be spread over five years. Operations balked and decided they would rather have the bulk of the work over 2-3 years and just wade through it. That's what we are seeing now and obviously they are using extra entertainment to help otherwise bored guests.

Really feel Mickey should've been a new build, though. I guess in their eyes, they get an extremely popular e ticket and remove an expensive relic all at once. Of course they are missing the opportunity to remodel the relic and build Mickey to get two popular e tickets from the work.

Too bad.
I suspect it's too early to tell, but is there any insight on how the capacity of The Great Mickey Ride (or whatever it will be called) will compare to The Great Movie Ride?
 

RSoxNo1

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Yes, but honestly the money is now spreading property wide. The level of spending over the next five years is unprecedented. I don't come to WDW for one park. I come for four. And they will be in stellar shape by 2021.

My concern now turns to the 2020s. It would be unreasonable to expect growth to continue at this clip and it is reasonable to expect no major construction during what is shaping up to be a TRULY dazzling (no really, Disneyland) celebration. Let's hope they can end up at the arguably-appropriate pace of one new E-ticket every 12-18 months property-wide, smaller additions inbetween, and maintenance of a reasonable refurb schedule.

Disneyland has maintained that since 2005.
What Multiverse are you in where Disneyland has added an E-ticket ever 12-18 months?
 

Rodan75

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I think we are forgetting that early in this thread, it was mentioned that this plan is coming about because GMR is getting poor survey results.

A refurb may improve those scores, if outdated AAs and movie references are the issue...but if the issue is patience...that money is wasted. I'm assuming that they did the reasearch that says this is a key change to make.

I can't imagine them skimping on a Mickey ride at the park's central icon. So this won't be a cheap overlay.
 

RSoxNo1

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Assuming Martin's timeline is true, I'm willing to bet that part of the internal Disney conversations involved Pandora. After the summer crowds Disney is probably accepting that a significant amount of cannibalism will take place of DHS's attendance at the hands of DAK. In theory they'd prefer to not close the attraction in the summer when crowds are higher, but are willing to take the hit for the 9-12 months before Toy Story Land opens.

Just a theory, but I'm guessing that played into some of these timing decisions.
 

MansionButler84

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In the Parks
No
What Multiverse are you in where Disneyland has added an E-ticket ever 12-18 months?
Added or substantially redeveloped? I admit it's not perfect, but they've had a pretty good decade.

2007 Nemo subs
2008 Toy Story Mania
2010 World of Color
2011 Star Tours and Ariel
2012 Cars Land
2015 60th additions
2016 Soarin
2017 Guardians

Then 2019 SWL
 

MansionButler84

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In the Parks
No
I think we are forgetting that early in this thread, it was mentioned that this plan is coming about because GMR is getting poor survey results.

A refurb may improve those scores, if outdated AAs and movie references are the issue...but if the issue is patience...that money is wasted. I'm assuming that they did the reasearch that says this is a key change to make.

I can't imagine them skimping on a Mickey ride at the park's central icon. So this won't be a cheap overlay.
It will not be cheap at all. To give an idea, Dr. Wikipedia, who never lies, says Rat cost $270,000,000. Now I'd imagine that includes more than just the ride, but Mickey is more elaborate than Rat. And SW Battle is even more elaborate than Mickey!
 
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