Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

[Trauma]

It really isn’t spin. You can go back and check the relevant posts if you don’t believe me.


I’m sure the Zegler stuff hasn’t helped, but the film has also done really badly in markets where I don’t think her statements were widely publicised.

Why did they make the movie if it was so obvious it was going to lose money ?

 

[DKampy]

As for thinking the Anora is p*rn is one of the most ridiculous thing you’ve said and that is saying something. I mean you and Fareb are just embarrassing yourselves with this. Honestly you basically just described every R rated movie that’s been released. What a joke!!

Their analysis of Anora can be disregarded once they came to that conclusion by reading the MPAA rating…. As they would never actually watch the film

 

[Tony the Tigger]

You, Chi, Disney Irish, Tony and others constantly think you can gang up on people here and disrespect them just because you don't like their opinions.

I'm done with this game, find someone else to harass.

This is a very strange assessment of the situation, IMO. Disagreeing is not ganging up. However, you seem to be escalating. I don’t know your mental state or age, so this will be the last post I read from you. Time to use my favorite feature on this site: Ignore.

Rational disagreement is one thing. These hysterics do not bring me joy.

 

[Casper Gutman]

Why did they make the movie if it was so obvious it was going to lose money ?

Because They are milking the live-action remakes to death without much further thought about the film being remade.

 

[LittleBuford]

Why did they make the movie if it was so obvious it was going to lose money ?

I think the remake could have succeeded had they approached it differently. But once the CGI dwarfs were unveiled, I lost all hope.

Again, the posts are all there if you doubt me. I really don’t recall many people here claiming the film was likely to do well.

 

[Disney Irish]

Why did they make the movie if it was so obvious it was going to lose money ?

I don’t think any studio intentionally sets out to make a movie that will lose money (rare exceptions are passion projects).

However after a certain point during production a studio hits a point of no return and must finish a movie and release it in order to recoup at least some of the costs associated with production.

 

[MagicMouseFan]

This is a very strange assessment of the situation, IMO. Disagreeing is not ganging up. However, you seem to be escalating. I don’t know your mental state or age, so this will be the last post I read from you. Time to use my favorite feature on this site: Ignore.

Rational disagreement is one thing. These hysterics do not bring me joy.

Sure you should be talking Tony?
I remember you and you should sit this one out.

You were not rational with me on any level.
Won’t ever forget it

 

[Tony the Tigger]

I think the remake could have succeeded had they approached it differently. But once the CGI dwarfs were unveiled, I lost all hope.

Again, the posts are all there if you doubt me. I really don’t recall many people here claiming the film was likely to do well.

They were a mixed bag, varying from dwarf to dwarf. Dopey and Doc were noticeably well done. Grumpy…it depended on the shot, IMO. But I’m no fan of cgi.

Would humans have been better? As far as acting and connecting, of course. But when you see them in action, I think certain scenes would have been harder to shoot - unless they reversed it and used people, but made the background cgi.

I think a Mary Poppins effect may have worked - but I think their choice was consistent with the other remakes (that I’ve seen.)

 

[LittleBuford]

They were a mixed bag, varying from dwarf to dwarf. Dopey and Doc were noticeably well done. Grumpy…it depended on the shot, IMO. But I’m no fan of cgi.

Would humans have been better? As far as acting and connecting, of course. But when you see them in action, I think certain scenes would have been harder to shoot - unless they reversed it and used people, but made the background cgi.

I think a Mary Poppins effect may have worked - but I think their choice was consistent with the other remakes (that I’ve seen.)

Based on the clips I’ve seen, the dwarfs look very off to me. But I’ll have a better sense of how they work after I actually watch the film.

 

[MoonRakerSCM]

Who goes to the theater at 10:00 on a Saturday morning?

Obviously nobody... the same as this 2pm showing right now (taken after 2 so this includes walk up).

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

I'm also wondering whether this $270 million number is before or after United Kingdom tax credits.

This film is a black eye for Disney. This first half of 2025 is a weaker showing for Walt Disney Studios, but I'm optimistic about the second half of the year.

I doubt we’ll ever know but based on the multiple budget estimates my guess is that’s before tax credits. I’ve seen several reports that put the total spend (production and marketing) at $300-320 million, that would put production somewhere around $210 million.

I think it’s losing money regardless of what number we use, the good new is Disney has Stitch, a couple marvel films, and Avatar coming up so they should be fine for the year.

I don’t think any studio intentionally sets out to make a movie that will lose money (rare exceptions are passion projects).

However after a certain point during production a studio hits a point of no return and must finish a movie and release it in order to recoup at least some of the costs associated with production.

I agree, outside of some indie films and passion projects no studio makes a movie unless they think it will make money, I don’t think Snow White falls into either category.

At the beginning I think it may have been a passion project, in the sense they wanted to modernize a classic, but I think once they realized just how much money it was going to lose they changed course, I think it was too late at that point.

 

[erasure fan1]

I have tried to have a reasonable discussion with you, but let me be clear - you are lying about what I have said.

Sorry, but nope. And now we've said our peace and move on.

 

[erasure fan1]

Sure you should be talking Tony?
I remember you and you should sit this one out.

You were not rational with me on any level.
Won’t ever forget it

I'd like this 4 times if I could.

 

[BrianLo]

I'm also wondering whether this $270 million number is before or after United Kingdom tax credits.

It’s after, the number sources from Anthony at Deadline who has a consistent way of reporting it. So expect an asinine article from Forbes about how ‘the budget’ is 375M in the Spring.

But that figure won’t include the tax credit and include overhead and interest.

 

[MoonRakerSCM]

5:00pm showing (after 5 so this includes walkups).

Look out folks, theyre filling up!

Wow.

 

[BrianLo]

Because people here constantly made sure to tell everyone that it would be a huge success, better than The Little Mermaid because most people don't follow the controversies and because they hate the original 1937 film.

Don’t you know? Box office is only part of the equation now. Think of all the truckloads of money that will come in as people sign up for D+ memberships to watch a B+ Cinemascore movie…once.

I’m curious - did any of the posters defending Zegler expect the film to do well? I’ve always expected a bomb, and not primarily because of the hate campaign. Snow White is not particularly relevant to modern audiences, it’s a hard film to adapt, fewer films are hits for a lot of reasons, and most of the live-action remakes are mediocre at best.

My first two quotes are examples of pontification or monologuing to yourselves. The trouble is sometimes these posts are subsequently recalled by other posters. Thinking these claims were actually made, except the ones making them were made sarcastic all along.

This message board is a log, if people have made these outlandish claims, or Casper has clearly labeled something, bring the receipts.

Since there often are none, it comes down to not having understood the points people actually are trying to make and drawing your own conclusions of something long forgotten.

Then Walter having likely flown in talking to himself. That’s how TP gets turned into a deep movie insider recognized by many trades with shelves of accolades for his years of service to the movie industry.

 

[easyrowrdw]

No, not at all.

(I wouldn’t call it defending Zegler as such, but rather pushing for a less sensationalised and tendentious approach to her words.)

Whoa whoa whoa, somebody went to college!

 

[easyrowrdw]

I think the remake could have succeeded had they approached it differently. But once the CGI dwarfs were unveiled, I lost all hope.

Again, the posts are all there if you doubt me. I really don’t recall many people here claiming the film was likely to do well.

When it was announced in 2019 I would’ve expected a big box office. They were coming off remakes in Beauty and the Beast, The Jungle Book, and Lion King that averaged 1.25 billion. Snow White might be the crown jewel of Disney. The original movie has been criticized for being a bit slight so there is room to expand it. I figured they could add to the movie without changing its core. Evidently there were plans for the original movie that never made it due to animation difficulties or whatever. There’s potential there.

But there seems to have been so many things up against success for this movie. You have the “controversy” over the casting to the “controversy” over the comments and the “controversy” over the dwarfs. That’s to say nothing of whatever issues resulted in delays and alleged changes to the movie itself. At this point it does seem doomed to fail but I don’t think it was destined to.

 

[MoonRakerSCM]

730p showing! Looks like it's a success!

 

[coffeefan]

I don't remember people saying this movie would be a commercial hit. It faced too many obstacles and controversies along the way.
At least it seems to be well liked by its target audience - little girls.