Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

[TP2000]

Catching up on the last few pages was not at all entertaining.

Don't worry, it will pick up soon.

The past month has been the late winter doldrums, since Captain America 4 flamed out fast after a rather dismal opening.

We just haven't had much box office news to discuss. But in a week we'll have the Snow White premiere weekend, and then we'll be off to the races again on Disney box office talk, with hard facts and Cherry Picked data to back it all up!

Until then, here's a few fun Snow White nuggets today from industry media watchers...

Inside ‘Snow White’ movie nightmare as Disney ‘doesn’t know what to do’ with outspoken star Rachel Zegler

With problems piling up for the new live-action “Snow White,” the son of the 1937 version’s director told Page Six it’s enough to make his father and Walt Disney “roll…

pagesix.com

'Go Woke, Go Broke': Disney's 'Snow White' Predicted To Be A Box Office Flop

Disney executives reportedly know the 2025 Snow White remake starring Rachel Zegler will flop at the box office, and are preparing for the worst.

www.ibtimes.co.uk

With live-action 'Snow White,' Disney finds itself again in culture war crosshairs

Disney's live-action 'Snow White' has faced a difficult road to its opening next week, with external controversies it at every step.

www.latimes.com

 

[Tony the Tigger]

These boards have become increasingly negative. The posters who previously noted that fact post less often now or have just left.

I guess there must be some fun in predicting the failure of actors who appear in Disney films or say things you don’t want to hear.

I’m not out to silence anyone, but what’s the sense in just making things up and then arguing about it?

This.

As a Disney fan since the early 70’s, it’s bummer to come here and read all this negativity from people who mostly follow groupthink and want to sound smart. To me, it’s just snobbiness, and a real turn-off.

Go start a Disney hate site.

Criticize or offer constructive feedback on occasion. I do. When it’s every day, something is up. And when people think they know better than trained imagineers, they don’t.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

I had plenty of bravado and pulled a few stupid stunts in my early 20's. Every 20 year old kid does.

But I never got close to what Miss Zegler has done regarding very public offensive statements about half her paying customers, her own employer, and her employer's near-sacred and once-proud history.

If I'd have done 10% of what Miss Zegler did by age 22 regarding her employer and its customers, I would have been fired three times over, beat up once or twice, and been thrown out of my apartment. Ah, Hollywood!

I’m so glad there weren’t camera phones around when I was a wild youth in my late teens and early 20s, nothing illegal but lots of things I’d find embarrassing now that I’m an adult, also glad I didn’t have cameras pointed in my face all the time, I’ve always been just as opinionated as I am now, I like to think I’d know better than to say something stupid on camera but as often as I edit comments here (after reading them and realizing they don’t adequately convey what I meant) I think it’s inevitable I would have.

I say the same when discussing athletes who blow millions and go broke, I like to think I wouldn’t be that stupid but had you given me millions of dollars in my early 20s I’d probably have blown it also. Kids do stupid things, it’s part of being a kid and learning, and yes I include the 20 somethings as kids.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

This.

As a Disney fan since the early 70’s, it’s bummer to come here and read all this negativity from people who mostly follow groupthink and want to sound smart. To me, it’s just snobbiness, and a real turn-off.

Go start a Disney hate site.

Criticize or offer constructive feedback on occasion. I do. When it’s every day, something is up. And when people think they know better than trained imagineers, they don’t.

I think Disney forums have always had a lot of negativity, I remember when I joined around 2012 thinking all the old timers were so grumpy here, at the time I was a new to the parks pixie duster and amazed by everything at the parks.

I quit posting here for several years because I was so busy enjoying the parks I didn’t have time for the negativity, then covid happened and I started posting again to get my Disney fix, unfortunately once the parks reopened they made such drastic negative changes I found myself becoming the negative Disney grump myself.

I think people mistake passion for hate, if we actually hated Disney we wouldn’t waste our time here, we’re here because we love Disney, passion is often accompanied by complaints, usually towards management. Go to a pro team fan forum and you’ll find the exact same thing, people talking about which players they love, which they hate, what coach needs to go, etc. Strong passions breed strong opinions.

 

[Trauma]

I think the company puts out a very high quality product.

Unless you have enough money to keep the parks profitable on your own, it doesn’t matter what you or I think. It’s what the majority of people think and the sentiment has been increasingly negative for years now.

 

[Farerb]

I'm not from the US so I never cared about the parks, but as a Disney fan I'm absolutely devastated by what Bob Iger did to this company.
Turning their backs on hand drawn animation, Disney's biggest legacy, and then doing mostly just pointless remakes with no passion behind them, more sequels, focusing on franchises, focusing only on grossing billions so there's no risk taking and no innovation anymore. It hasn't been detrimental to Disney alone, but to Hollywood entirely. Most movies are basically the same now, they even added irreverent "MCU humor" to Lilo and Stitch now.

 

[coffeefan]

Unless you have enough money to keep the parks profitable on your own, it doesn’t matter what you or I think. It’s what the majority of people think and the sentiment has been increasingly negative for years now.

But maybe those people are just loud. Since demand for Disney theme parks, movies, video games etc says otherwise.

 

[McMickeyWorld]

Some early “unofficial” reviews from people who’ve reportedly seen the film are starting to pop up, the seven bandits are reportedly the Prince’s sidekicks, similar to how the seven dwarfs are Snows sidekicks. Early “unofficial” reviews are also generally positive overall, will be interesting to see the official reviews once the embargo is lifted.

I just listened to the soundtrack, and it's really good. I don't want to get my hopes up only for the script and performances to ruin them. But honestly, it's the best soundtrack for a live-action adaptation— it even reminds me, in a good way, of the songs from the classic Barbie movies.

 

[Tha Realest]

Don't worry, it will pick up soon.

The past month has been the late winter doldrums, since Captain America 4 flamed out fast after a rather dismal opening.

We just haven't had much box office news to discuss. But in a week we'll have the Snow White premiere weekend, and then we'll be off to the races again on Disney box office talk, with hard facts and Cherry Picked data to back it all up!

Until then, here's a few fun Snow White nuggets today from industry media watchers...

Inside ‘Snow White’ movie nightmare as Disney ‘doesn’t know what to do’ with outspoken star Rachel Zegler

With problems piling up for the new live-action “Snow White,” the son of the 1937 version’s director told Page Six it’s enough to make his father and Walt Disney “roll…

pagesix.com

'Go Woke, Go Broke': Disney's 'Snow White' Predicted To Be A Box Office Flop

Disney executives reportedly know the 2025 Snow White remake starring Rachel Zegler will flop at the box office, and are preparing for the worst.

www.ibtimes.co.uk

With live-action 'Snow White,' Disney finds itself again in culture war crosshairs

Disney's live-action 'Snow White' has faced a difficult road to its opening next week, with external controversies it at every step.

www.latimes.com

Here’s another one bemoaning the anticipated failure of this movie by Disney from the left (and see if you can spot the absolutely abhorrent re-characterization and framing of a hot button issue in this diatribe)

Disney Is Setting ‘Snow White’ Star Rachel Zegler Up To Fail

The Mouse House has laid the groundwork for her to be the scapegoat if the movie tanks.

www.yahoo.com

 

[DKampy]

So just about everything the company does now is of poor quality and you surprised the boards are increasingly negative ?

So if you can’t stand the company…. Maybe you should move on

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Wait a minute…was there actually a consensus here yesterday?

Gal Gadot is a smoke show…not a good actress?

…this invigorates my faith in humanity

 

[Tha Realest]

So if you can’t stand the company…. Maybe you should move on

So saying he doesn’t like the quality of many of the company’s recent offerings means he “can’t stand the company?”

Maybe he wants it to be better?

 

[DKampy]

So saying he doesn’t like the quality of many of the company’s recent offerings means he “can’t stand the company?”

Maybe he wants it to be better?

He did not say he dislikes many…. He says it is all poor….. I am confused…. If a product gives a person no enjoyment… why do they keeps engaging with that product

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

So if you can’t stand the company…. Maybe you should move on

Completely wrong…and a total misunderstanding of how consumer economics work.

It’s a relationship…not commands from the supplier

 

[erasure fan1]

There are any number of reasons why an actor isn't in the next big blockbuster, being blackballed by Hollywood for whatever reason some here think is probably 1000th on the list.

Totally agree. The point I was making, and I get it, I don't know what's for sure going through their mind. Is that the overwhelming majority got into it for the fame and lifestyle. That doesn't mean I think they don't love acting. But I can't see many wanting the scrutiny and lack of privacy and all that goes with it unless they want the fame and lifestyle. I'm sure there's some because it's never everyone or no one.

 

[DKampy]

Completely wrong…and a total misunderstanding of how consumer economics work.

It’s a relationship…not commands from the supplier

Correct… it is a relationship…. And if your partner does not make you happy anymore…. You break up… unless you are addicted to the toxic relationship

If enough people move on…. Maybe said company will change course

 

[Farerb]

If anything placing it in March might save the film because of lack of competition.

 

[HauntedPirate]

There is this old, worn-out saying: "Get Woke, go broke".

This notion has been peddled for several years now we have thoroughly debunked it on these forums over and over again. Disney does NOT need to be concerned with this phrase and it's idea because it has been 100% proven wrong. Disney should not and will not be altered by any fear of this silly idea.

The new thing now is: "Snow White is going to flop because it's Woke". I'm certain this is FAR from the case. "Snow White" was the character that started the Disney studios and is very much an evergreen IP. The movie is going to be a huge success. Even if it slips a little bit, it won't be because it's "Woke". It will more likely be because of where they placed it in the spring movie season. This should have been marketed in the summer "blockbuster" months with a higher marketing budget. Even still, this movie is going to be an excellent box office performer.

We really need to end this "Get Woke, go broke" trope that somehow just won't dei. It's insulting and just not factually true in 2025.

Quoting for posterity.

 

[Cliff]

This is the kind of nonsense post that got the Snow White thread shut down. Are you going for two?

As a matter of fact yes, I will be seeing it twice in the theater. Burbank worked VERY hard on this movie and put a ton of extra attention into it to get it right. I support Burbank efforts with this movie and will buy two tickets for it.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

Correct… it is a relationship…. And if your partner does not make you happy anymore…. You break up… unless you are addicted to the toxic relationship

If enough people move on…. Maybe said company will change course

Or you can vent about what’s bothering you and salvage what’s an otherwise good relationship.

Disney is like the husband who’s leaving his clothes on the floor, leaving the toothpaste cap off, not taking the trash to the curb, etc. Nothing that’s divorce worthy but annoying as heck to his partner none the less.

If everyone got a divorce the second their partner did something that bothered them there wouldn’t be a single married couple left on the planet.