Agent H
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quality is subjective.
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Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs
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Sure but when more and more people are upset about the quality of Disneys products that is an indicator something is wrong.
If your CEO and you’re being told that the customers are not happy because they feel like quality has been reduced, you should be immediately discharged by the board if you respond with “quality is subjective”.
Farerb
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Rachel might have a career after Snow White, probably Broadway and Indie films. I don't wish her ill, I think most of us were stupid and smug at 23. However, I'm not going to watch anything else with her as long as she doesn't publicly apologize to Gal Gadot. There are a few other actors I've decided to not watch anything with them.
TP2000
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I had plenty of bravado and pulled a few stupid stunts in my early 20's. Every 20 year old kid does.
But I never got close to what Miss Zegler has done regarding very public offensive statements about half her paying customers, her own employer, and her employer's near-sacred and once-proud history.
If I'd have done 10% of what Miss Zegler did by age 22 regarding her employer and its customers, I would have been fired three times over, beat up once or twice, and been thrown out of my apartment. Ah, Hollywood!
Chi84
Premium Member
I think the company puts out a very high quality product.
TP2000
Well-Known Member
Catching up on the last few pages was not at all entertaining.
Don't worry, it will pick up soon.
The past month has been the late winter doldrums, since Captain America 4 flamed out fast after a rather dismal opening.
We just haven't had much box office news to discuss. But in a week we'll have the Snow White premiere weekend, and then we'll be off to the races again on Disney box office talk, with hard facts and Cherry Picked
data to back it all up! 
Until then, here's a few fun Snow White nuggets today from industry media watchers...
Inside ‘Snow White’ movie nightmare as Disney ‘doesn’t know what to do’ with outspoken star Rachel Zegler
With problems piling up for the new live-action “Snow White,” the son of the 1937 version’s director told Page Six it’s enough to make his father and Walt Disney “roll…
pagesix.com
'Go Woke, Go Broke': Disney's 'Snow White' Predicted To Be A Box Office Flop
Disney executives reportedly know the 2025 Snow White remake starring Rachel Zegler will flop at the box office, and are preparing for the worst.
www.ibtimes.co.uk
With live-action 'Snow White,' Disney finds itself again in culture war crosshairs
Disney's live-action 'Snow White' has faced a difficult road to its opening next week, with external controversies it at every step.
www.latimes.com
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Tony the Tigger
Well-Known Member
This.
As a Disney fan since the early 70’s, it’s bummer to come here and read all this negativity from people who mostly follow groupthink and want to sound smart. To me, it’s just snobbiness, and a real turn-off.
Go start a Disney hate site.
Criticize or offer constructive feedback on occasion. I do. When it’s every day, something is up. And when people think they know better than trained imagineers, they don’t.
Vegas Disney Fan
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I’m so glad there weren’t camera phones around when I was a wild youth in my late teens and early 20s, nothing illegal but lots of things I’d find embarrassing now that I’m an adult, also glad I didn’t have cameras pointed in my face all the time, I’ve always been just as opinionated as I am now, I like to think I’d know better than to say something stupid on camera but as often as I edit comments here (after reading them and realizing they don’t adequately convey what I meant) I think it’s inevitable I would have.
I say the same when discussing athletes who blow millions and go broke, I like to think I wouldn’t be that stupid but had you given me millions of dollars in my early 20s I’d probably have blown it also. Kids do stupid things, it’s part of being a kid and learning, and yes I include the 20 somethings as kids.
Vegas Disney Fan
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I think Disney forums have always had a lot of negativity, I remember when I joined around 2012 thinking all the old timers were so grumpy here, at the time I was a new to the parks pixie duster and amazed by everything at the parks.
I quit posting here for several years because I was so busy enjoying the parks I didn’t have time for the negativity, then covid happened and I started posting again to get my Disney fix, unfortunately once the parks reopened they made such drastic negative changes I found myself becoming the negative Disney grump myself.
I think people mistake passion for hate, if we actually hated Disney we wouldn’t waste our time here, we’re here because we love Disney, passion is often accompanied by complaints, usually towards management. Go to a pro team fan forum and you’ll find the exact same thing, people talking about which players they love, which they hate, what coach needs to go, etc. Strong passions breed strong opinions.
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Unless you have enough money to keep the parks profitable on your own, it doesn’t matter what you or I think. It’s what the majority of people think and the sentiment has been increasingly negative for years now.
Farerb
Well-Known Member
I'm not from the US so I never cared about the parks, but as a Disney fan I'm absolutely devastated by what Bob Iger did to this company.
Turning their backs on hand drawn animation, Disney's biggest legacy, and then doing mostly just pointless remakes with no passion behind them, more sequels, focusing on franchises, focusing only on grossing billions so there's no risk taking and no innovation anymore. It hasn't been detrimental to Disney alone, but to Hollywood entirely. Most movies are basically the same now, they even added irreverent "MCU humor" to Lilo and Stitch now.
Turning their backs on hand drawn animation, Disney's biggest legacy, and then doing mostly just pointless remakes with no passion behind them, more sequels, focusing on franchises, focusing only on grossing billions so there's no risk taking and no innovation anymore. It hasn't been detrimental to Disney alone, but to Hollywood entirely. Most movies are basically the same now, they even added irreverent "MCU humor" to Lilo and Stitch now.
coffeefan
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But maybe those people are just loud. Since demand for Disney theme parks, movies, video games etc says otherwise.
McMickeyWorld
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I just listened to the soundtrack, and it's really good. I don't want to get my hopes up only for the script and performances to ruin them. But honestly, it's the best soundtrack for a live-action adaptation— it even reminds me, in a good way, of the songs from the classic Barbie movies.
Tha Realest
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Here’s another one bemoaning the anticipated failure of this movie by Disney from the left (and see if you can spot the absolutely abhorrent re-characterization and framing of a hot button issue in this diatribe)Don't worry, it will pick up soon.
The past month has been the late winter doldrums, since Captain America 4 flamed out fast after a rather dismal opening.
We just haven't had much box office news to discuss. But in a week we'll have the Snow White premiere weekend, and then we'll be off to the races again on Disney box office talk, with hard facts and Cherry Picked
Until then, here's a few fun Snow White nuggets today from industry media watchers...
Inside ‘Snow White’ movie nightmare as Disney ‘doesn’t know what to do’ with outspoken star Rachel Zegler
With problems piling up for the new live-action “Snow White,” the son of the 1937 version’s director told Page Six it’s enough to make his father and Walt Disney “roll…'Go Woke, Go Broke': Disney's 'Snow White' Predicted To Be A Box Office Flop
Disney executives reportedly know the 2025 Snow White remake starring Rachel Zegler will flop at the box office, and are preparing for the worst.With live-action 'Snow White,' Disney finds itself again in culture war crosshairs
Disney's live-action 'Snow White' has faced a difficult road to its opening next week, with external controversies it at every step.
Disney Is Setting ‘Snow White’ Star Rachel Zegler Up To Fail
The Mouse House has laid the groundwork for her to be the scapegoat if the movie tanks.
So if you can’t stand the company…. Maybe you should move on
Sirwalterraleigh
Well-Known Member
Wait a minute…was there actually a consensus here yesterday?
Gal Gadot is a smoke show…not a good actress?
…this invigorates my faith in humanity
Gal Gadot is a smoke show…not a good actress?
…this invigorates my faith in humanity
Tha Realest
Well-Known Member
So saying he doesn’t like the quality of many of the company’s recent offerings means he “can’t stand the company?”
Maybe he wants it to be better?
He did not say he dislikes many…. He says it is all poor….. I am confused…. If a product gives a person no enjoyment… why do they keeps engaging with that product
Sirwalterraleigh
Well-Known Member
Completely wrong…and a total misunderstanding of how consumer economics work.
It’s a relationship…not commands from the supplier
erasure fan1
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Totally agree. The point I was making, and I get it, I don't know what's for sure going through their mind. Is that the overwhelming majority got into it for the fame and lifestyle. That doesn't mean I think they don't love acting. But I can't see many wanting the scrutiny and lack of privacy and all that goes with it unless they want the fame and lifestyle. I'm sure there's some because it's never everyone or no one.