Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

[Phroobar]

I didn’t realize Disney is such a career-killer for actors. No wonder they have to pay them so much to appear in Disney films.

I wonder if this is widely known in acting circles. Do you think their agents are smart enough to warn actors away from Disney movies?

Disney isn't cool to Hollywood.

 

[Disney Irish]

Then you are just glossing over their recent track record…

…because it’s not an unreasonable point

Even though it’s blessed, magical, ne’er do wrong Disney

Except your only barometer for this supposed "Disney kills careers" is "lack of those actors starring in the next big blockbuster franchise", not accepting that other smaller projects are available for actors to take which maybe their desire.

I'm not sure why its reasonable to think because they aren't in the next big blockbuster that its somehow Disney killing their career, but its unreasonable to think its not Disney but of their own free will that they pick other projects.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Except your only barometer for this supposed "Disney kills careers" is "lack of those actors starring in the next big blockbuster franchise", not accepting that other smaller projects are available for actors to take which maybe their desire.

I'm not sure why its reasonable to think because they aren't in the next big blockbuster that its somehow Disney killing their career, but its unreasonable to think its not Disney but of their own free will that they pick other projects.

That is still tbd

If Luke LTE and Ariel 2 start appearing in lots of stuff…then the theory is false

 

[Chi84]

Except your only barometer for this supposed "Disney kills careers" is "lack of those actors starring in the next big blockbuster franchise", not accepting that other smaller projects are available for actors to take which maybe their desire.

I'm not sure why its reasonable to think because they aren't in the next big blockbuster that its somehow Disney killing their career, but its unreasonable to think its not Disney but of their own free will that they pick other projects.

People are saying such silly things here about things they can’t possibly know.

There are so many factors that come into play here that reducing it to Disney having a significant effect is unsupportable.

But people here seem to attribute magical powers to Disney.

 

[Disney Irish]

That is still tbd

If Luke LTE and Ariel 2 start appearing in lots of stuff…then the theory is false

I don't know who "Luke LTE" is (I assume you mean Boyega but not clear).

But Bailey has been in multiple projects. Unfortunately her recent project for Universal got shelved after filming was completed, but that is not her fault or even directly related to her as she was hired and filming was completed. So its clear studios are hiring her and that her career isn't killed by Disney.

 

[Chi84]

Disney isn't cool to Hollywood.

Really? How do you know this?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I don't know who "Luke LTE" is (I assume you mean Boyega but not clear).

But Bailey has been in multiple projects. Unfortunately her recent project for Universal got shelved after filming was completed, but that is not her fault or even directly related to her as she was hired and filming was completed. So its clear studios are hiring her and that her career isn't killed by Disney.

So we’re dueling assumptions then?…good thing we’re not throwing rocks, huh?

And which character was a bad facsimile of the Luke Skywalker character? Like obnoxiously so? That one isn’t hard

 

[Chi84]

So we’re dueling assumptions then?…good thing we’re not throwing rocks, huh?

And which character was a bad facsimile of the Luke Skywalker character? Like obnoxiously so? That one isn’t hard

What was the assumption in the post you quoted? I’m lost.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

What was the assumption in the post you quoted? I’m lost.

That’s the point

What I say are opinions…I willingly own that

The counters are opinions presented as facts

We’re both the same…and since this thread has been going on for years…you can go back through it and see everyone wins some and lose some

That’s life.

And you’re not lost. It’s the “what do you mean?” Thing I mentioned about 4 days ago in this or another thread

Once is lost…every topic Is a game

 

[TP2000]

In 2024, she was in a live action movie and voiced an animated movie. She's been on Broadway until this past February and is making the international rounds for promoting Snow White.

Those items were all in her past, circa 2019-2024.

Did you think she'd be filming a movie while on Broadway?

The question posed by someone else was "What is next for Rachel Zegler?", and that's what I found. There's nothing new announced for Rachel Zegler at this time, after Snow White.

Whatever points you thought you were going to make against Zegler just redounds as demerits to your credibility.

Not sure how that impacts any credibility of anything beyond just discussing, on a discussion forum no less, the rather interesting star of Disney's next mega-budget tentpole.

But more importantly, how many demerits do I have now? I can't find my demerits tab in my profile. And if you have the time Dean Wormer, can you tell me how many more demerits I can incur before I get put on Double Secret Probation?

 

[Disney Irish]

So we’re dueling assumptions then?…good thing we’re not throwing rocks, huh?

And which character was a bad facsimile of the Luke Skywalker character? Like obnoxiously so? That one isn’t hard

And this is the problem with you speaking in code or jokes or digs or whatever else that only you understand, people have to assume what you're talking about. If you have to explain it, then maybe its not as funny as it was in your head. Sometimes its better to just say outright want you mean so there are no misunderstanding or assumptions made.

And by your dig here I have to assume you're now talking about Ridley. Again she has been working steadily since SW, two movies last year and two movies this year as her recent stuff. So again your "assumption" that her career has been killed by Disney is again proven to be false. Just because she isn't tied to a major blockbuster franchise doesn't mean her career is dead.

 

[Disney Irish]

Those items were all in her past, circa 2019-2024.

No, her run on Broadway just finished last month, ie just a few weeks ago in 2025. And now she is on the press tour for Snow White. No time in there for filming a new movie.

The question posed by someone else was "What is next for Rachel Zegler?", and that's what I found. There's nothing new announced for Rachel Zegler at this time, after Snow White.

As for what's next, as indicated there is a few rumors, but I'm sure nothing will be announced until after Snow White is released. But once announced I'm sure it'll be posted all over this thread.

 

[Disney Irish]

That’s the point

What I say are opinions…I willingly own that

The counters are opinions presented as facts

We’re both the same…and since this thread has been going on for years…you can go back through it and see everyone wins some and lose some

That’s life.

And you’re not lost. It’s the “what do you mean?” Thing I mentioned about 4 days ago in this or another thread

Once is lost…every topic Is a game

If its all opinions, then there are no winners or losers. As I've posted before, and put it in my signature, Sir this is a theme park forum not a competition, there is no winning or losing.

 

[Chi84]

That’s the point

What I say are opinions…I willingly own that

The counters are opinions presented as facts

We’re both the same…and since this thread has been going on for years…you can go back through it and see everyone wins some and lose some

That’s life.

And you’re not lost. It’s the “what do you mean?” Thing I mentioned about 4 days ago in this or another thread

Once is lost…every topic Is a game

No, I'm being absolutely serious. Assumptions are different from opinions; they derive from facts. If you say there are dueling assumptions, then I want to know what they are. I absolutely want to know what you mean because it's not clear.

You can say you're assuming that Disney killed an actor's career because the person starred in a Disney film and hasn't worked since. I would say that's a weak assumption because of all of the other factors that enter into an actor's career.

But when you say that @Disney Irish is making an assumption too, then I would expect to find the assumption in the post. I didn't, so I asked what statement in the post you were identifying as an assumption. If you're now saying there was a counter-assumption presented as fact, then what words contain that assumption?

Words mean something. If this is all a game with winners and losers and posts aren't meant to provoke actual discussion, then just don't respond to them by saying words that can't be deciphered.

 

[TP2000]

The Hollywood Reporter has just weighed in on the unusual, and sometimes extraordinary, steps that Disney is taking on the PR and launch of Snow White.

This short paragraph seems to sum it up. And March seems definitely to be an Oof! month for Burbank. I mean, when you are using the same locked down red carpet concept that Warner Bros. used for Ezra Miller... Oof!

"Snow White isn’t the first major film to manage a red carpet in such a restricted way. Warner Bros. did much the same for the world premiere of The Flash, starring the embattled Ezra Miller. But Miller had been accused of several criminal acts, whereas Zegler has simply generated social media blowback for comments including criticizing the original film, supporting Palestine and slamming Donald Trump. Gadot, meanwhile, is a divisive figure on social media due to the Israeli actress speaking out in support of her native country since the Oct. 7 terror attack by Hamas."

Inside Disney’s ‘Snow White’ Troubles: “They Need to Get This Over With”

Disney’s live-action 'Snow White' reboot starring Rachel Zegler and Gal Gadot seemed like a can't-miss project five years ago. But have some PR missteps combined with anti-woke outrage turned marketing the film into a poisoned apple?

www.hollywoodreporter.com

 

[Disney Irish]

The Hollywood Reporter has just weighed in on the unusual, and sometimes extraordinary, steps that Disney is taking on the PR and launch of Snow White.

This short paragraph seems to sum it up. And March seems definitely to be an Oof! month for Burbank. I mean, when you are using the same locked down red carpet concept that Warner Bros. used for Ezra Miller... Oof!

"Snow White isn’t the first major film to manage a red carpet in such a restricted way. Warner Bros. did much the same for the world premiere of The Flash, starring the embattled Ezra Miller. But Miller had been accused of several criminal acts, whereas Zegler has simply generated social media blowback for comments including criticizing the original film, supporting Palestine and slamming Donald Trump. Gadot, meanwhile, is a divisive figure on social media due to the Israeli actress speaking out in support of her native country since the Oct. 7 terror attack by Hamas."

Inside Disney’s ‘Snow White’ Troubles: “They Need to Get This Over With”

Disney’s live-action 'Snow White' reboot starring Rachel Zegler and Gal Gadot seemed like a can't-miss project five years ago. But have some PR missteps combined with anti-woke outrage turned marketing the film into a poisoned apple?

www.hollywoodreporter.com

Um, just a few issues I see with trying to frame those two things together as being the same, mainly being that Miller didn't attend the Premiere of The Flash as WB hid them amid the allegations, while Zelger and Gadot will still be front and center as the face of the Premiere.

 

[TP2000]

Um, just a few issues I see with trying to frame those two things together as being the same, mainly being that Miller didn't attend the Premiere of The Flash as WB hid them amid the allegations, while Zelger and Gadot will still be front and center as the face of the Premiere.

I had to go to Google to be reminded who Ezra Miller was, then I read his criminal rap sheet and sexual predator allegations, and it came back to me. "Oh yeah, that guy. Yikes!"

So I Googled again, and Ezra Miller did attend the Los Angeles premiere of The Flash at Grauman's Chinese Theater.

As only our moral betters in Hollywood could do, they gave Ezra Miller a "rockstar welcome" at the premiere, although Warner Bros. forbid the press from interviewing Mr. Miller on the red carpet. Which must be why The Hollywood Reporter used The Flash premiere as an example of locking down a red carpet and forbidding the media from asking questions of an infamous star.

"Miller received a rockstar welcome at “The Flash” premiere, introduced by their director Andy Muschietti.

The studio announced ahead of time that the Los Angeles premiere would be Miller’s lone publicity commitment for the film. They walked the red carpet and did not stand for traditional on-camera and print interviews. Miller’s “The Flash” co-star Ben Affleck and Jennifer Lopez turned up at the event, as did Muschietti’s “It Chapter Two” collaborator Jessica Chastain."

Ezra Miller Issues First Public Comments Since Misconduct Allegations at ‘The Flash’ Premiere

Speaking publicly for the first time in nearly two years, Ezra Miller touched on their many controversies at the premiere of "The Flash."

variety.com

 

[Ghost93]

I don't dislike Gal Gadot as a person, but based on all of the clips Disney has released of Snow White so far, her performance as the Evil Queen is really bad. Like, razzie-level bad. I didn't have a whole lot of faith in the movie to begin with, but I fear this may be worse than I thought.

Someone like Lady Gaga — who can act, sing and have a convincingly intimidating/dark onscreen presence —might have been a better pick for the role.

 

[Disney Irish]

I had to go to Google to be reminded who Ezra Miller was, then I read his criminal rap sheet and sexual predator allegations, and it came back to me. "Oh yeah, that guy. Yikes!"

So I Googled again, and Ezra Miller did attend the Los Angeles premiere of The Flash at Grauman's Chinese Theater.

As only our moral betters in Hollywood could do, they gave Ezra Miller a "rockstar welcome" at the premiere, although Warner Bros. forbid the press from interviewing Mr. Miller on the red carpet. Which must be why The Hollywood Reporter used The Flash premiere as an example of locking down a red carpet and forbidding the media from asking questions of an infamous star.

"Miller received a rockstar welcome at “The Flash” premiere, introduced by their director Andy Muschietti.

The studio announced ahead of time that the Los Angeles premiere would be Miller’s lone publicity commitment for the film. They walked the red carpet and did not stand for traditional on-camera and print interviews. Miller’s “The Flash” co-star Ben Affleck and Jennifer Lopez turned up at the event, as did Muschietti’s “It Chapter Two” collaborator Jessica Chastain."

Ezra Miller Issues First Public Comments Since Misconduct Allegations at ‘The Flash’ Premiere

Speaking publicly for the first time in nearly two years, Ezra Miller touched on their many controversies at the premiere of "The Flash."

variety.com

I stand corrected, as recall they weren't at the Premiere. That however was the only event that Miller attended for the film, they didn't attend any other part of the publicity for Flash, they were otherwise hidden from public view in relation to the film.

So again I sort of dislike this framing as it being the "same", as both Zegler and Gadot are out in full force for the film even if the Premiere is not going to have the normal cavalcade of press lining the red carpet.

 

[coffeefan]

I don't dislike Gal Gadot as a person, but based on all of the clips Disney has released of Snow White so far, her performance as the Evil Queen is really bad. Like, razzie-level bad. I didn't have a whole lot of faith in the movie to begin with, but I fear this may be worse than I thought.

Someone like Lady Gaga — who can act, sing and have a convincingly intimidating/dark onscreen presence —might have been a better pick for the role.

Gal is a bad actress. Gaga is better on the acting department, slightly.