Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

TP2000

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I know math is hard for you so let me break this down for you.

Gutfeld! (Fox News): 3,497,000 viewers | 308,000 in the key demo - only 8%
The Late Show with Stephen Colbert (CBS): 2,376,000 viewers | 239,000 in the key demo - 10%
Jimmy Kimmel Live (ABC): 1,946,000 viewers | 212,000 in the key demo - 10 %
The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon (NBC): 1,229,000 viewers | 188,000 in the key demo - 15%

So of the "key" demographic your buddy Gutfeld gets LESS percentage wise than the others. Meaning that the other shows are MORE popular with the younger demographic than Gutfeld when comparing their overall viewership numbers. Which again means that Gutfeld skews older with 92% of its viewers.

Tell me you don't know how advertising works without telling me. ;)

Gutfeld! has the most viewers in the 18-49 demo of any other late night talk show (on the three free networks), which means Gutfeld! can charge more for advertising, which makes Gutfeld! more profitable for its network (Fox News). Which, because this is a Capitalist society, means Gutfeld is the most successful (because it's the most watched) late night talk show.

Funny, the article you just posted proves my point, how Fox News ranks number 11 among 18-49, ie the network skews older for its general viewers being that its only getting 8% from the 18-49 crowd out of its total viewership -

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And my bet is that goes back down in 2025, it being a non-election year. Because you can look at just the year prior in 2023 and see it was even lower -

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Like I said, Fox News has the most young viewers of any other cable news network. It's a cable news network, not The Cartoon Channel for kids.

Fox News is the highest rated cable news network for all demographics, actually. By a long shot. Which also means their advertising rates are higher, and more profitable for its corporate ownership.
 

TP2000

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Is it just me, or are we all getting those long Rachel Zegler's Snow White trailers every time we log on to YouTube now?

Here's the Box Office for yesterday, previewing how things will likely shake out this 4th weekend of Captain America in theaters. A sci-fi flick called Mickey 17, which is not related to the mouse, did fairly well in previews last night.

How many more weeks until Rachel Zegler's Snow White hits theaters?!? Have a great weekend, gang!

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Disney Irish

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Tell me you don't know how advertising works without telling me. ;)

Gutfeld! has the most viewers in the 18-49 demo of any other late night talk show (on the three free networks), which means Gutfeld! can charge more for advertising, which makes Gutfeld! more profitable for its network (Fox News). Which, because this is a Capitalist society, means Gutfeld is the most successful (because it's the most watched) late night talk show.



Like I said, Fox News has the most young viewers of any other cable news network. It's a cable news network, not The Cartoon Channel for kids.

Fox News is the highest rated cable news network for all demographics, actually. By a long shot. Which also means their advertising rates are higher, and more profitable for its corporate ownership.
And tell me you don't understand advertising without telling me -

308,000 in the key 18-49 demo, 308K!!!!

This isn't Millions of viewers which is what advertisers are looking for, this is hundreds of thousands in that demo. There are no major ad buys going on here for the 18-49 demo, and really the same can be said for any late night show which is understandable. Sorry, its just not happening as they wouldn't get a return on investment here.

They are doing ad buys for the over 50 crowd, which is their core demographic. Yay you're getting targeted advertising to your age bracket!!!
 

TP2000

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I mentioned this the other day, I’ve seen more commercials for Snow White than any other Disney movie in years. They seem to be going all in on the marketing blitz.

Yes, it's noticeable how much they're plugging it. According to some early reporting, the production budget for it has gone past $250 Million, so they're in a fairly deep hole on this one. No wonder they're going big with marketing, they've already sunk a lot on production and over a year's worth of delays and rewrites and such.

This will be particularly interesting to watch how they market and launch this one. Especially after that frosty appearance Miss Zegler and Ms. Gadot were forced into at the Oscars last weekend! I saw a clip of it on YouTube, and.... Oof! A cold wind suddenly blew down Hollywood Blvd. last Sunday. 🥶
 

Vegas Disney Fan

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I can see Snow White doing $400-500 million, but not more in my opinion.
That was my original forecast also, now that I’ve seen opening weekend expectations of $50-60 million I’ve lowered my number. Opening week usually accounts for 1/3 to 1/2 of total domestic gross, that puts it around $100-180 million domestically, should be similar international numbers so now my guess is $250-350 million.

My original expectation was a $50 million loss (based on a $500 million break even point), now I think it’s going to be closer to a $200 million loss. Will be interesting to see how it plays out in reality vs expectations.
 

TP2000

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Vegas Disney Fan

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What I find interesting is that they all focus mostly on the evil queen with 1 clip of the dwarfs at the end.
I seem to be getting the one that starts out in 4:3 with the original animation and then morphs into 16:9 with the new CG animation. Shows SW dancing in the cottage with the dwarfs, etc. If I didn’t know better I’d suspect it was a shot for shot remake with little to no changes from the original.
 

Agent H

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I seem to be getting the one that starts out in 4:3 with the original animation and then morphs into 16:9 with the new CG animation. Shows SW dancing in the cottage with the dwarfs, etc. If I didn’t know better I’d suspect it was a shot for shot remake with little to no changes from the original.
I keep getting the one that does that with the magic mirror on the wall scene.
 

Vegas Disney Fan

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I keep getting the one that does that with the magic mirror on the wall scene.
I’d love to know how the algorithms decide what to show to who.

It’s creepy how often I’ll talk to someone about something and I instantly start getting ads for that specific item. Targeted advertising is amazingly accurate.
 

Agent H

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I’d love to know how the algorithms decide what to show to who.

It’s creepy how often I’ll talk to someone about something and I instantly start getting ads for that specific item. Targeted advertising is amazingly accurate.
I don’t know how it decides someone who watches videos about theme parks movies and shows he watched when he was a kid needs to see the same add about the evil queen over and over either.
 
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Disney Irish

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Another article reports no London premiere for Snow White. Instead it will premiere in Spain. A “Disney insider” (not sure what that means) says there was never a plan to have the UK premiere in London

I had been seeing it would be a private press event instead of a public one, so if that's going to be in Spain that probably makes sense. And if you think about it, its probably for the best as it would keep down any of the drama that a public premiere would have.
 

Vegas Disney Fan

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I don’t know how it decides someone who watches videos about theme parks movies and shows he watched when he was a kid needs to see the same add about the evil queen over and over either.
I’m not surprised either of us are getting Disney ads based on our watch histories , just odd you’re getting villain ads while I’m getting traditional ads, I’m the cranky old man who doesn’t like Zegler, you’d think they’d be sending me the ads that barely show her.
 

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