Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

brideck

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I’m not sure you’re drawing the correct conclusions here. If you as a product want more “key demographic” eyeballs on your product, you would want to advertise on Gutfeld. Using your own numbers, you’d have almost twice as many key demographic eyeballs seeing your ads on Gutfeld than Jimmy Fallon.

Honestly, I think the numbers are all so low that an advertiser looking for the key demo just wouldn't bother with any of those shows. (Though I understand your point.) It's a bit like arguing about which snail is the world's fastest. [It was the one in my 6th grade homeroom, for the record.]
 

Vegas Disney Fan

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Honestly, I think the numbers are all so low that an advertiser looking for the key demo just wouldn't bother with any of those shows. (Though I understand your point.) It's a bit like arguing about which snail is the world's fastest. [It was the one in my 6th grade homeroom, for the record.]

Ads are all catered based on viewership demographics, Gutfield isn’t competing with American Idol for ads, it’s competing with other similar shows that draw the same demographics. Ironically shows like the view that have similar viewership numbers and who’s audience skews even older.
 

easyrowrdw

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While I believe The Dark Knight should have been nominated and won Best Picture in 2008, Slumdog Millionare was still a pretty great movie and it made a decent amount of money at the box office ($378 million in 2008). Slumdog made much, much more than more modern winners like Anora or the Shape of Water or Moonlight.
Oh sure. I was speaking more of the populist backlash to not getting a nomination. The next year when a tiny movie beats a giant one, it seems like a continuation of a similar theme.
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
I’m not sure you’re drawing the correct conclusions here. If you as a product want more “key demographic” eyeballs on your product, you would want to advertise on Gutfeld. Using your own numbers, you’d have almost twice as many key demographic eyeballs seeing your ads on Gutfeld than Jimmy Fallon.
No it proves exactly what I was trying to say, on a percentage basis Gutfeld (and Fox News in general) skews older than younger compared to other late night shows. From a raw number stand point yes it slightly gets more, but that really doesn't matter to me as I really wasn't looking at ratings from an advertisers point of view anyways that is something that others brought up.
 

Ghost93

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Oh sure. I was speaking more of the populist backlash to not getting a nomination. The next year when a tiny movie beats a giant one, it seems like a continuation of a similar theme.
The Dark Knight should have DEFINITELY gotten in over The Reader.

In Bruges, Doubt, the Wrestler, Revolutionary Road and WALLE were also better than the vast majority of the 2008 nominees.
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
Ads are all catered based on viewership demographics, Gutfield isn’t competing with American Idol for ads, it’s competing with other similar shows that draw the same demographics. Ironically shows like the view that have similar viewership numbers and who’s audience skews even older.
Actually that is not true, if I'm an advertiser that is trying to advertise for the 18-49 demo I'm going for American Idol not Gutfeld. So in that sense yes Gutfeld is competing for ad dollars with other shows not in its same time block for the age group.

But we've gotten WAY off topic now.
 

DKampy

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That’s one opinion.
Correct.. they are all opinions… who are we to say the nominations are wrong… none of us are in the Academy

I do enjoy watching the Academy Awards…. As I watch a lot of films, so I am familiar with most…. But all I can say is whether I disagree or agree… all film is subjective…. I would never tell someone else’s opinion is wrong
 

easyrowrdw

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The Dark Knight should have DEFINITELY gotten in over The Reader.

In Bruges, Doubt, the Wrestler, Revolutionary Road and WALLE were also better than the vast majority of the 2008 nominees.
In Bruges is one of my absolute favorites. Slumdog is probably the only one from the actual nominees that I would've had on my list. Everyone's different of course.

My favorite tidbit about The Reader.
 

Wendy Pleakley

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Correct.. they are all opinions… who are we to say the nominations are wrong… none of us are in the Academy

I do enjoy watching the Academy Awards…. As I watch a lot of films, so I am familiar with most…. But all I can say is whether I disagree or agree… all film is subjective…. I would never tell someone else’s opinion is wrong

I don't know why people get so hung up on those awards. The Academy Awards tends to award the type of movie that doesn't have a ton of mainstream popularity. It's usually a slower prestige drama type.

There's also a tendency to give an award that is really based on a lifetime of work. Return of the King was really an award for the trilogy.

It's pretty rare that I'm 100% adamantly in agreement with a given award. The notable one I can think of was Schindler's List. I would have been stunned at any other result.

I'll watch sometimes because the Oscars have some entertainment value and it's a chance to learn about movies I probably overlooked. I don't worry too much about how much it aligns with my own opinions.
 

Minnesota disney fan

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I would agree, but not for the reason you think. I just think that most of the older generations have moved on, and most of the younger generations aren't watching late night in general. So its not politics in my opinion, as I would think that is fairly even in terms of amount when compared to someone like Gutfeld, its just now a different era where late night is no longer in favor compared to other forms of entertainment. Maybe that changes and things swing back, who knows.
I agree with you!!! There's a first time for everything, LOL.
I am "older" and I used to love to stay up and watch Johnny Carson every night. Then as I got older I quit watching the late night shows, and now don't even think of them. It could be a generational thing.
 

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