Serpico Jones
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The next few months are going to be rough for Disney.
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Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs
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DisneyWarrior27
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I doubt that they’ll be that rough.
They’re still the #1 studio in the world and, thanks to Mufasa (not counting the Fox releases), they’re back as the #1 studio of the year in America, too.
Really.
Daredevil: Born Again looks like it’ll be huge on Disney+.
Moana 2 will hit a billion next month, per Variety.
And they’re not gonna cancel Disney+ when they have stuff coming up that year that may be big for them like Andor Season 2 and more.
Besides, the only films that might disappoint for Disney and bomb are Captain America: Brave New World and Snow White.
They’ll be fine. Really wish you’d stop being cynical, here and on the Jedi Council Forums, which I’ve seen you do recently with Skeleton Crew along with lying about what you heard about Jon Favreau on The Mandalorian & Grogu from people who can’t be trusted.
TalkingHead
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I would be shocked (wouldn’t be the first time) if it did Inside Out 2 numbers. Inside Out 1 was considered by many to be one of the last great Pixar titles, an emotional piece that was heartfelt and amusing; it enjoyed critical acclaim in a way that WDAS and Zootopia haven’t enjoyed.
I mean anything’s possible but I don’t think the IP is in the same realm as Inside Out or even Moana.
TalkingHead
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To paraphrase the Timekeeper, if Captain America bombs Burbank’s pants will be full.
CinemaScore can be a tad difficult to parse because we normally think of an A- as a really good score on a school project or test. But for a movie, it's already third tier behind A and A+.
And third tier means that, on average, you can take a movie's opening weekend and multiply it by 3.4 to get its final Box Office with an A- score. That gets one to the profit or loss line or break-even.
Getting a B+ or lower score means not getting to profitability.
Getting an A or A+ means very positive word of mouth will draw in crowds or repeat-watchers to get to very profitable.
Genre films (like Horror or Superhero) or sequels will draw in on opening weekend a crowd predisposed to like the movie and thus inflating its CinemaScore. If a prequel or genre film doesn't get a good CinemaScore... that's very bad.
Though, CinemaScore can be misleading at times. The Nightmare Before Christmas got a bad B+ score. Probably because opening night audiences didn't know what to make of it. But then it later got high critic and audience scores and became a beloved classic (and even made a profit at the BO).
And third tier means that, on average, you can take a movie's opening weekend and multiply it by 3.4 to get its final Box Office with an A- score. That gets one to the profit or loss line or break-even.
Getting a B+ or lower score means not getting to profitability.
Getting an A or A+ means very positive word of mouth will draw in crowds or repeat-watchers to get to very profitable.
Genre films (like Horror or Superhero) or sequels will draw in on opening weekend a crowd predisposed to like the movie and thus inflating its CinemaScore. If a prequel or genre film doesn't get a good CinemaScore... that's very bad.
Though, CinemaScore can be misleading at times. The Nightmare Before Christmas got a bad B+ score. Probably because opening night audiences didn't know what to make of it. But then it later got high critic and audience scores and became a beloved classic (and even made a profit at the BO).
Ghost93
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Zootopia was acclaimed at the time and is still generally well-regarded, although it's commentary on racism hasn't aged the best in a post 2020 world.
I think Zootopia 2 will be a landmine if it's anything like the first movie as we are in a much more politically charged and tense situation than we were in March of 2016. Disney claims its trying to stay out of politics, but the first Zootopia film was probably it's most political animated movie.
Ghost93
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I think CinemaScore is more of a test of "did the audience get what they thought they were paying for?" There have been many great movies with bad cinemascores, usually because the movies took bold swings that pushed audiences out of their comfort zone or the movies were mismarketed and the movie people ended up seeing was very different from what they were expecting based on the trailers.
DisneyWarrior27
Active Member
They’ll get over it once The Fantastic 4 makes a billion and Thunderbolts* is a success with $450-$500M WW on a $150M budget.
BrianLo
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Had you posited this question back in January, I'd easily have said Moana > Zootopia > Inside Out in terms of market sentiment. Ironically we might land in the reverse with the sequels. Zootopia was quite big internationally. But I think the Inside Out 2 record is going to stand for a long time.
I still don't quite get what set Inside Out 2 that ablaze. In the sense that what made Inside Out 2 the biggest animated film of all time? I understand more Lion King and Mario and Frozen 2.