Disney Irish
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We’ll see, but as I said no matter what Disney is extremely happy with its results.
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Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs
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Tony the Tigger
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Either I didn’t notice before, or the new trailer is slightly tweaked, but they explain that Snow White was named after a snowstorm on the day she was born. There you go. There’s your explanation. No big deal.
She looks solid to me, and I’ve never seen her in any other movie as far as I know. All the hoopla makes me want to go out and support her.
As for the rest of the discussions lately, I’m finding them more and more irksome. Everyone thinks they’re a critic, a director, and an analyst. It’s starting to sound like all the threads complaining about new attractions where everyone thinks they’re an armchair Imagineer, and they are just “correct“ about their opinions.
Why is it the lion King is being derided for a prequel, but sonic is not for a second sequel? The first sonic was massively retooled before it was released, I don’t hear any prattling about that.
I’m not at all surprised to see sonic outdo the lion King because there was a lot of positive buzz about the past two sonic installments, at least as I heard it.
I don’t know why lion King fans wouldn’t want to learn about Mufasa’s history, but I am not the biggest lion King fan.
Pitting Moana against lion King: why? You can’t go to the movies twice?
The incessant blathering about lay people’s theories on why something is successful or not successful as if they are experts. They aren’t.
Huge songs never made it to number one because the timing was bad, because an even bigger hit was number one at that very same time. Had they released it at a different time, it would’ve been a number one. It works the same with films. Obviously, that’s one reason they reschedule films.
A film being good or bad, or the right or wrong decision, is only partially tied to its box office. Some things are just ahead of their time. Plus: reasons.
She looks solid to me, and I’ve never seen her in any other movie as far as I know. All the hoopla makes me want to go out and support her.
As for the rest of the discussions lately, I’m finding them more and more irksome. Everyone thinks they’re a critic, a director, and an analyst. It’s starting to sound like all the threads complaining about new attractions where everyone thinks they’re an armchair Imagineer, and they are just “correct“ about their opinions.
Why is it the lion King is being derided for a prequel, but sonic is not for a second sequel? The first sonic was massively retooled before it was released, I don’t hear any prattling about that.
I’m not at all surprised to see sonic outdo the lion King because there was a lot of positive buzz about the past two sonic installments, at least as I heard it.
I don’t know why lion King fans wouldn’t want to learn about Mufasa’s history, but I am not the biggest lion King fan.
Pitting Moana against lion King: why? You can’t go to the movies twice?
The incessant blathering about lay people’s theories on why something is successful or not successful as if they are experts. They aren’t.
Huge songs never made it to number one because the timing was bad, because an even bigger hit was number one at that very same time. Had they released it at a different time, it would’ve been a number one. It works the same with films. Obviously, that’s one reason they reschedule films.
A film being good or bad, or the right or wrong decision, is only partially tied to its box office. Some things are just ahead of their time. Plus: reasons.
Tha Realest
Well-Known Member
Why?. The Lion King (animated) made almost a billion, and more recent Lion King “live action” film made over $1.6B. That’s a ton of franchise awareness
It’s generally considered a bad idea for a studio to step on its own box office. There is a finite amount of marketing spend and cross-promotion to go around in a tight window.
TalkingHead
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Sure, but a lot of families won’t, which is Disney’s target audience for these two.
Last week I went to see something with relatives. One small popcorn and a bottle of water was $15. Tickets and concessions for a family of four would be over $100 in a lot of places. If the entertainment value is perceived to be mediocre, it’s easy to imagine a family doing the first film and skipping the second one.
MagicMouseFan
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Disney spent a record $290.9 million last year to make ANDOR Season 2, which makes it the highest-ever annual spend for a Star Wars production
This takes the total budget of ANDOR Seasons 1 and 2 to $645 million
Universal spent $350 million on both Wicked movies combined (Marketing cost not included)
This takes the total budget of ANDOR Seasons 1 and 2 to $645 million
Universal spent $350 million on both Wicked movies combined (Marketing cost not included)
erasure fan1
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The original lion King is beloved. The remake? Well not so much. It might have done 1.6bil but the only awareness it got was how bad and lazy the film was. And that isn't helping this film. I can only speak for me, but if this was released instead of the remake, I'm interested. But after how bad the remake was, I'll wait for streaming.
Sonic has been on an upward trend. It's a great example of why you should listen to your fan base. I truly believe that the first Sonic fails if they don't change the design. They did and it has gone nowhere but up. They've done a great job adapting the ip and each instalment has improved. That can't be said about the lion king. And lion king is my number one all time favorite Disney movie.
Tony the Tigger
Well-Known Member
Says who? It's several weeks across "the holidays" in which to do something. Get one refillable popcorn bucket and share.
Disney Irish
Premium Member
Sonic 3 opened $12M less than the second did just 2 years ago (and 3 cost $32M more to make), that doesn't appear to be an upward trend to me. We'll see what its final numbers are but if that trend continues it won't make near as much WW as the second, coming in around the mid-$300M's instead. So again that doesn't seem like an upward trend to me, but rather franchise fatigue, which many claim that many of Disney franchises also have including the live-action remakes.
IMO… Sonic will probably land where the last one did…. I think there is a limited ceiling in the appeal… I believe part of the reason is some waiting till after Christmas… however Sonic is also typically front loaded…. It’s film that getS the fan boys out for Thursday previews over other films currently out… which Is why projections were off… there was a bigger drop then originally thought…. Sony most likely knows this as the 4th one was announced for Super Mario’s date in April 2027….which struck gold
I would also like to state this is all opinion… unlike some declare their thoughts as facts
Disney Irish
Premium Member
I agree I think it also has a limited ceiling. And if it is front-loaded, well, that doesn't bode well for its finally tally. But we'll see what happens over the next couple weeks as we go into the new year.
DarkMetroid567
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Heartbroken at how much I disliked Sonic 3. Genuinely do not understand how this got an 86% RT.
brideck
Well-Known Member
Yeah, it's an interesting split. It's Metascore is only 59, so it's like a plurality of critics gave it 3 stars out of 5 -- just good enough to be considered fresh.
erasure fan1
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It's the highest rated of the three with fans and critics. It's got great word of mouth. It's an upward trend to me. We'll see what the final numbers are going to be but as of this moment, the arrow is pointing more north than South in my opinion. The difference with me, is I can adjust, even when it's a property close to my heart. I've been a Sonic fan for 33 years. Bought it when it released for the Genesis, sonic cd is still hooked up on my tv using original hardware. If this movie does significantly less than the last, sure, then it's on a downturn. It only needs 350 to 360 mil to break even at worst. So we'll see how it ends up.
coffeefan
Active Member
Elio is the only Disney original and non-remake/ non-IP/sequel releasing next year I believe. So I sure hope all the people that complain about remakes and IP sequels are the first in line to see it.
Disney Irish
Premium Member
That might be where it ends up based on this opening. But yes we'll see where it ends up in the final tally.
And just note I'm not rooting for it to do badly, I don't do that with any film no matter the franchise or studio unlike some posters around here. I want all films to do good as that is what leads to a better box office overall. So I got no skin in the game as it were.
Ghost93
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I'll see it. I saw Raya, Encanto, Strange World, Wish and Elemental in theaters, so I've done my part to support original animation from Disney/Pixar, even if the movies themselves haven't always been great.Elio is the only Disney original and non-remake/ non-IP/sequel releasing next year I believe. So I sure hope all the people that complain about remakes and IP sequels are the first in line to see it.
Would have seen Soul/Luca/Turning Red in theaters is they hadn't been sent straight to streaming.
I want good movies to do well and bad movies to flop. Mufasa is kind of a mixed bag, so I don't care too much either way how it financially performs. I'm just glad it was much more enjoyable than the 2019 Lion King.
DisneyWarrior27
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I’ll be there to show up for Elio.Elio is the only Disney original and non-remake/ non-IP/sequel releasing next year I believe. So I sure hope all the people that complain about remakes and IP sequels are the first in line to see it.
DisneyWarrior27
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Moana 2 is now past $800M worldwide with $804M WW, just $196M away from making a billion worldwide.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Nope…carry on
Disney Irish
Premium Member
Nope what? Nope it won’t cross $800M before Christmas Eve, well it did. Nope that Disney isn’t extremely happy with its performance, well they are. Nope that it won’t cross a Billion, well that remains to be seen, it’ll likely be close by the end of its run if it doesn’t. International remains strong with this one.