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mickEblu

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As someone who has spent time in Europe for the past seven summers...may I strongly encourage you to go out and explore things. The world is really a remarkable place away from the computer desk :)

Ya I hear you. Sometimes, One can kind of get stuck in the rat race and time passes you by. How old are you if you don’t mind me asking? And are you married with children?
 

Hattieboxghost110

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Also depends on how adventurous one is. If one is always traveling and exerperiencing what this State or World has to offer I can see how some of what DCA has to offer is less of a draw. But the average guest is not this person. However, talking about this is making me want to get out there more. Go experience these things in the real world. I’ve been to Yosemite but I’ve never been white water rafting. Everything at DLR is so safe. As a married man with a 2 year old son who has Been sitting in a cubicle the last 7 years a little danger, adventure and unpredictability sounds nice.


And then I woke up

Damn, bruh. I'm in the same situation.

Ahhhh, the ole' ball & chain amiright?
 

Hatbox Ghostbuster

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Ahhhh. That helps. Enjoy yourself my friend. Enjoy yourself while you can. Not that I’m not enjoying myself in other ways but it’s gets a lot harder to just pick up and travel.
Oh believe me, I count myself as a rare-case. All of my closest friends are working on their third child right now.

Believe it or not, I actually don't even get to travel as much as I'd like. Work does rear its ugly necessary head. I'm not one of those young Instagram/bloggers who just seemingly travels for a living. Haha.
 

Hattieboxghost110

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Lol yup. One of my biggest regrets is that I’ve never had no/limited responsibilities and income at the same time. Throughout my 20s I was pursuing a music career and broke. As soon as I got a steady job in my late 20s, I got engaged. Go figure.

Duuuudddde. Same deal. In my 20's, I was free as a bird, but broke as a joke. Now I got a little money, but no time since I have the wife & son. I daydream a lot as well.
 

mickEblu

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Duuuudddde. Same deal. In my 20's, I was free as a bird, but broke as a joke. Now I got a little money, but no time since I have the wife & son. I daydream a lot as well.

Telling you bro. I see all my younger cousins and they re doing it right. Traveling the world and just living. Of course they re all broke really but having fun. I’m the oldest of all cousins on both sides of the family and eldest of my siblings so I didn’t really have anyone to look up to when it came to how to approach life after high school/ college. And I’m a first generation American so I didn’t really have parents who experienced/ valued the whole going away to college thing and preached how important that was. Although, considering the debt kids are getting into now, maybe that was a good thing?
 

nevol

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Well obviously I wouldn't want that! With the movies, they've done enough world building that you could have some pretty interesting locations. Definitely a place for a Marvel'ized 'real world' area but then you could also have Wakanda, Ragnarok, something Guardians related, etc. It's not all NY and LA you know!
Well thankfully, in Black Panther, the King of Wakanda goes to a housing project in California where he plans to build a center to educate the community and share Wakanda's technology for the betterment of humanity. They could easily build such a location in DCA, with or without the entrance being a housing project courtyard with a ship parked out front in a basketball court. A star tours-like journey to Wakanda is the bare minimum zero effort outcome of a Black Panther ride and it would still be cool.
 

nevol

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Wow!!!
Massive expansion to WDSP, much larger than the DCA remake.
What I take away from this is that Disney is tired of how difficult it is to do business in California and has decided to shift its focus
on areas that appreciate the huge economic benefit.
After Star Wars, which let’s face it Disney has no choice but to add it to Anaheim as well as Orlando, it looks like DLR is being virtually abandoned in terms of any major expansion
and development.
Whether it’s Squaw Valley trying to expand or
other ski resort expansions being completely axed, or Disney canceling planned parking and entrance changes/expansion, California
has become a terrible climate to do business.
I wouldn’t be surprised if the entertainment studios move more than just their production out of the state in the future.
So sad.
Not the case at all. 2.5 billion being spent in california through 2025 in exchange for a zero gate tax extension on tickets through 2040. The same amount of money as Paris, except that kind of investment doesn't make the news here in the same way. Also, the announcements are phased; star wars, new parking, new hotel, marvel, mission breakout, eventually fantasyland and tomorrowland before the 70th/75th. The plans are actually very similar to what is happening in paris. Paris is just lucky that their park s***ed more than DCA and requires an epcotification of its layout with IP. We already had 1.2 billion dumped in DCA after its original 600 million plus 70 for TOT plus monsters etc. Marvel and Pixar on the way. Disneyland resort is bursting at the seems, insanely successful now, and can't expand fast enough, so even if california was harder to do business in than Paris (ha!!, no way) it has a market that supports that investment at any cost. Meanwhile, paris is getting this aggressive expansion with confidence that it'll work, following the success of dca's reinvestment, but really, with more risk, because it is bringing a huge new park basically to a park that only gets 4 million visitors a year.

Changing subjects on this stream of consciousness: In the states we demand non-ip theme parks and get disappointed when everything abandons the park's mission statement, yet there, they had a blank slate, a park whose only mission statement was to promote disney IP, and incidentally, their expansion looks nice and isn't offensive. Frankly, if they get the full SW:GE, I would say this park will be arguably superior to Disney Hollywood Studios in orlando once completed. And all of that expansion space around the lagoon can house future e tickets in a world showcase-type arrangement, with Pandora and other greatest hits making an appearance. This actually frees DLP from IP and might allow them to deliver some original attractions. DCA today is far superior to that park but the harmony of this concept art is making me a little envious.
 

mickEblu

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Not the case at all. 2.5 billion being spent in california through 2025 in exchange for a zero gate tax extension on tickets through 2040. The same amount of money as Paris, except that kind of investment doesn't make the news here in the same way. Also, the announcements are phased; star wars, new parking, new hotel, marvel, mission breakout, eventually fantasyland and tomorrowland before the 70th/75th. The plans are actually very similar to what is happening in paris. Paris is just lucky that their park s***ed more than DCA and requires an epcotification of its layout with IP.

Changing subjects on this stream of consciousness: In the states we demand non-ip theme parks and get disappointed when everything abandons the park's mission statement, yet there, they had a blank slate, a park whose only mission statement was to promote disney IP, and incidentally, their expansion looks nice and isn't offensive. Frankly, if they get the full SW:GE, I would say this park will be arguably superior to Disney Hollywood Studios in orlando once completed. And all of that expansion space around the lagoon can house future e tickets in a world showcase-type arrangement, with Pandora and other greatest hits making an appearance. This actually frees DLP from IP and might allow them to deliver some original attractions. DCA today is far superior to that park but the harmony of this concept art is making me a little envious.

So I know their have been Fantasyland expansion rumors for a while but have there been any serious rumors on a TL redo? I feel like that’s just us fans regurgitating our hopes/ dreams and what we think Disney will do. I don’t think I’ve heard one rumor from any insider on a TL redo. All this to say, have you heard anything?
 

nevol

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A couple things:

1. This is no indication of what is to come to DCA in terms of Marvel. Wait to see if they make some announcements at Comic-Con this year.
2. Just because GotG:MB didn't come to DLP doesn't mean its considered a failure. This is still wishful thinking by those that hate it. It's a unique attraction offering that will not be cloned, something that fans have claimed they wanted. The only time it'll be considered a failure is if they either bring back ToT (not gonna happen) or tear it down completely (again not gonna happen).
3. DLR will be getting another major overhaul in the coming years. Likely we will get announcements next year (post-SW:GE) at D23 of the next phase of projects.
Agreed. I consider it a failure because I don't like it, but that doesn't make it a failure. Our pushback in the states to this project is only stronger in Europe, where audiences I think are far less gullible to hollywood synergy and view the whole operation through a lens of cultural imperialism. Hollywood Tower Hotel is exotic to them and true quality, and given that it is one of the only successful attractions in WDSP, and basically the wienie for the whole park, highly visible at its entrance, it would have been a really bad move to overlay it. Not only because of its location etc once it is open, but because the park is practically on life support. Closing tot for any amount of time would be a risk they aren't willing to take.
 

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