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Phroobar

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I hung out at this mall. We had some fast times at that mall in the 80's.

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Professortango1

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lol. Would you visit an entire theme park themed to Marceline, MO? I don't think so.
Also what is your definition of "short" plane ride?

I guess its just different for me since I've lived in CA for almost 25 years. I know what it really has to offer, and its far greater than a theme-park's version (yes, even Disney). For the record, I have never once had the urge to visit DCA because I find myself drawn to its CA-theme. I can understand how someone from out of state could, but its all lost on me.

I wish they would have embraced California in theme park eyes, not travel agent eyes. You could have Bigfoot, the Wendigo, El Dorado, The Lost City of Mu, Zorro, Western River Expedition, a Hollywood where movie stars are plucked off the streets and colorful mobsters lurk in dark alleys.

If you want to see a somewhat decent version of California Adventure, look to Knotts Berry Farm. A Ghost Town celebrating the Gold Rush, a wilderness area where you can go on a rafting adventure to find Bigfoot or enter a mystic Native American lodge, a pierside park in the Roaring 20's featuring a trip back through time, airplane culture explored with the opportunity to parachute down into the park, a Mexican Mission-style village with a mysterious temple, and a lovely camp area for kids looking to explore.
 

Professortango1

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You must have hung out at some pretty rad looking 80s malls. All the ones I've ever been to look like this:
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Yeah, that looks very similar to the broad bland walkways and sterile environment of Shanghai's Tomorrowland. Not really a land I'd love to explore, just a gray sloped walkway towards Tron, which isn't my favorite show building by any means.
 

Hatbox Ghostbuster

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I wish they would have embraced California in theme park eyes, not travel agent eyes. You could have Bigfoot, the Wendigo, El Dorado, The Lost City of Mu, Zorro, Western River Expedition, a Hollywood where movie stars are plucked off the streets and colorful mobsters lurk in dark alleys.

If you want to see a somewhat decent version of California Adventure, look to Knotts Berry Farm. A Ghost Town celebrating the Gold Rush, a wilderness area where you can go on a rafting adventure to find Bigfoot or enter a mystic Native American lodge, a pierside park in the Roaring 20's featuring a trip back through time, airplane culture explored with the opportunity to parachute down into the park, a Mexican Mission-style village with a mysterious temple, and a lovely camp area for kids looking to explore.
Disney's Forgotten California. That right away has more appeal.
 

bluerhythym

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lol. Would you visit an entire theme park themed to Marceline, MO? I don't think so.
Also what is your definition of "short" plane ride?

I guess its just different for me since I've lived in CA for almost 25 years. I know what it really has to offer, and its far greater than a theme-park's version (yes, even Disney). For the record, I have never once had the urge to visit DCA because I find myself drawn to its CA-theme. I can understand how someone from out of state could, but its all lost on me.

I think you're intentionally missing the point that DCA can offer what the real California can't. I might not want to visit a whole park themed to Marceline, but I would visit a park with a series of different "Marcelines" - which is essentially what both Disneyland and DCA are. Yes, DCA does it on a smaller scale, but its all relative.

My definition of a "short" plane ride is probably about the same as your idea that Yosemite is a "short" drive from Anaheim.
 

bluerhythym

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I haven’t been in person but from what I’ve seen in videos I agree. It looks stale and dull, outside of Tron. The architecture isn’t inspiring and the land doesn’t seem to have any life or kinetic energy.

Shanghai's Tomorrowland reminds me of an Olympic Stadium. Nice and shiny but quickly forgotten. I want a Tomorrowland that feels lived in, like the world from the movie.
 

bluerhythym

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Still think for DCA the best option would be to include the attractions as part of a land based in California - like a Hollywoodland or San Francisco. I mean most of a Marvel films take place at some big city. Why not SF? Build a land that fits the park and integrate the attractions in that city/ land creatively. Kind of like POTC at NOS.

But no, they went with a 20 Story alien power plant.

Really wish that rumored Captain America in old Hollywood coaster didn't fall by the wayside.
 

Hatbox Ghostbuster

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I think you're intentionally missing the point that DCA can offer what the real California can't. I might not want to visit a whole park themed to Marceline, but I would visit a park with a series of different "Marcelines" - which is essentially what both Disneyland and DCA are. Yes, DCA does it on a smaller scale, but its all relative.

My definition of a "short" plane ride is probably about the same as your idea that Yosemite is a "short" drive from Anaheim.
I don't know that I am "intentionally" missing the point. I just again don't think it works for me. I can see how it would for others though.

Look, I'm always going to hold a grudge against DCA because it was built instead of WestCot. I guess we can just leave it at that.
 

bluerhythym

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I don't know that I am "intentionally" missing the point. I just again don't think it works for me. I can see how it would for others though.

Look, I'm always going to hold a grudge against DCA because it was built instead of WestCot. I guess we can just leave it at that.

Fair enough! I also wish we had gotten WestCot instead of DCA 1.0, but I still think DCA was well on its way to being to a great Disney park before it was derailed by Marvel and Pixar.
 

dweezil78

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I don't know that I am "intentionally" missing the point. I just again don't think it works for me. I can see how it would for others though.

Look, I'm always going to hold a grudge against DCA because it was built instead of WestCot. I guess we can just leave it at that.

I have nothing against larger-than-life versions of real places being built in theme parks. I just wish they were representing something a bit further away than the same state they were built in!
 

mickEblu

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California is HUGE. Driving to Yosemite or Kern River is not something I’m going to do often. I like being able to walk around Grizzly Peak. If we re comparing it to lands like wizarding world or Cars Land which are more fantasy based and don’t exist in California I still enjoy Grizzly Peak more. Land to land. Not comparing rides. I mean it just comes down to personal preference. I think the Califoria theme, although slightly limiting, worked fine. For example, The real Hollywood is dirty and ugly and you can’t go on any haunted hotel elevator drop rides. They re all still just fantasy versions of these real places in California in the safety of a Disney theme park.
 
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Hatbox Ghostbuster

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California is HUGE. Driving to Yosemite or Kern River is not something I’m going to do often. I like being able to walk around Grizzly Peak. If we re comparing it to lands like wizarding world or Cars Land which are more fantasy based and don’t exist in California I still enjoy Grizzly Peak more. Land to land. Not comparing rides. I mean it just comes down to personal preference. I think the Califoria theme, although slightly limiting, worked fine. For example, The real Hollywood is dirty and ugly and you can’t go on any haunted hotel elevator drop rides. They re all still just fantasy version of these real places in California.
And thanks to Disney, you can no longer go on any haunted hotel elevator drop rides ;)
 

mickEblu

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California is HUGE. Driving to Yosemite or Kern River is not something I’m going to do often. I like being able to walk around Grizzly Peak. If we re comparing it to lands like wizarding world or Cars Land which are more fantasy based and don’t exist in California I still enjoy Grizzly Peak more. Land to land. Not comparing rides. I mean it just comes down to personal preference. I think the Califoria theme, although slightly limiting, worked fine. For example, The real Hollywood is dirty and ugly and you can’t go on any haunted hotel elevator drop rides. They re all still just fantasy versions of these real places in California in the safety of a Disney theme park.

Also depends on how adventurous one is. If one is always traveling and exerperiencing what this State or World has to offer I can see how some of what DCA has to offer is less of a draw. But the average guest is not this person. However, talking about this is making me want to get out there more. Go experience these things in the real world. I’ve been to Yosemite but I’ve never been white water rafting. Everything at DLR is so safe. As a married man with a 2 year old son who has Been sitting in a cubicle the last 7 years a little danger, adventure and unpredictability sounds nice.


And then I woke up
 

Hatbox Ghostbuster

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Also depends on how adventurous one is. If one is always traveling and exerperiencing what this State or World has to offer I can see how some of what DCA has to offer is less of a draw. But the average guest is not this person. However, talking about this is making me want to get out there more. Go experience these things in the real world. I’ve been to Yosemite but I’ve never been white water rafting. Everything at DLR is so safe. As a married man with a 2 year old son who has Been sitting in a cubicle the last 7 years a little danger, adventure and unpredictability sounds nice.


And then I woke up
As someone who has spent time in Europe for the past seven summers...may I strongly encourage you to go out and explore things. The world is really a remarkable place away from the computer desk :)
 

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