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BrianLo

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I would draw nothing from this towards DCA. Even HKDL is a poor indication. Now we know Mission breakout is not for WDSP, and WDW went a completely different direction. Iron Man gets two different attractions, no park has a Buzz to Antman conversion planned.

Very oddly it seems like Marvel attractions could actually remain wholly unique across the board. Is this actually a concerted effort? Could someone actually be advocating against clones? @GiveMeTheMusic
 
Hatbox Ghostbuster

Hatbox Ghostbuster

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TROR said:
California is a state with a very rich history, lots of diversity, as well as mythos and legends that can all be explored in a theme park. I'll always defend the idea of a California based theme park and I don't know how Maine would be a better location for a park celebrating California's history. There was a reason Disney's America was going to be built in Virginia, near the nation's capital, and not in Winnipeg, Canada.
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While I see your point, I guess it just clashes with the idea of what a theme park should do (imo), which is take you out of reality and transport you to another place and time. The idea of celebrating California's history seems more befitting of a museum.

I can go to the real Route 66. I can go to the real Hollywood. I can go to the real Sequoias and Redwood forests all for a FRACTION of the price of a theme park ticket.

Call me crazy, but if I go to Florida specifically to go to DisneyWorld, the last thing I'd want to experience is a theme park designed around Florida.

For the record, Disney's America was going to be themed around history too, so I wouldn't have a problem with it's location. I would have a huge problem too if Disney's America wasn't built in the US. :)
 
TROR

TROR

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Hatbox Ghostbuster said:
While I see your point, I guess it just clashes with the idea of what a theme park should do (imo), which is take you out of reality and transport you to another place and time. The idea of celebrating California's history seems more befitting of a museum.

I can go to the real Route 66. I can go to the real Hollywood. I can go to the real Sequoias and Redwood forests all for a FRACTION of the price of a theme park ticket.
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But can you go to the real romantic, idealized Hollywood of the 30's, 40's, and 50's? Can you visit a turn of the century boardwalk? Or Route 66 in the 1960's during its heyday? No, you can't. Disney California Adventure should be your gateway these places.

There really is just so much potential with these lands, too, that has never been utilized. If DCA had a Gold Rush themed boat ride like PotC, or the Great Movie Ride, or Mystic Manor-esque attraction on the pier, I don't think people would have a problem with the California theme.

Call me crazy, but if I go to Florida specifically to go to DisneyWorld, the last thing I'd want to experience is a theme park designed around Florida.
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Yeah but Florida history also sucks for the most part. Pretty dull place.
 
dweezil78

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Hatbox Ghostbuster said:
For the record, Disney's America was going to be themed around history too, so I wouldn't have a problem with it's location. I would have a huge problem too if Disney's America wasn't built in the US. :)
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Hmm... and just what do you think ever happened to those plans for Disney's America? Don't be too certain that it wasn't built in the US. You know, with its themed lands based on aviation, a little wharf area, a river rapid ride, a sunny pier, and a bountiful looking farm.
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Hattieboxghost110

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TROR said:
California is a state with a very rich history, lots of diversity, as well as mythos and legends that can all be explored in a theme park. I'll always defend the idea of a California based theme park and I don't know how Maine would be a better location for a park celebrating California's history. There was a reason Disney's America was going to be built in Virginia, near the nation's capital, and not in Winnipeg, Canada.
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TROR said:
But can you go to the real romantic, idealized Hollywood of the 30's, 40's, and 50's? Can you visit a turn of the century boardwalk? Or Route 66 in the 1960's during its heyday? No, you can't. Disney California Adventure should be your gateway these places.

There really is just so much potential with these lands, too, that has never been utilized. If DCA had a Gold Rush themed boat ride like PotC, or the Great Movie Ride, or Mystic Manor-esque attraction on the pier, I don't think people would have a problem with the California theme.
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This.

Hatbox Ghostbuster said:
Call me crazy, but if I go to Florida specifically to go to DisneyWorld, the last thing I'd want to experience is a theme park designed around Florida.
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Someone DID build a park about Florida!

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dweezil78

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My feelings on the studio as a theme is that it goes against what makes Disney special. The magic is in the story telling and making you believe you are in another time and place. The studio theme is less about the movie magic and more about showing you what it takes to make movies. It's actually a big let down. I recall walking up to Star Tours at MGM Studios and thinking it was cool to see an AT-AT out front. Then I spent the next 45 minutes in line staring at the bare steel supports behind the thing.
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All the studio parks are dated concepts now and most of them have been working to undo any ties to 'movie making magic' that was so predominant in the early attractions of all of them. 'Universal Studios' is just a theme park brand now for the most part with attractions that are based on movies, not necessarily movie making.

The only reason MGM Studios ever got built was because it was a knee jerk reaction to Universal encroaching on Disney's territory in Orlando and Eisner wanted to beat them to the punch. I have no idea why the Paris park ever got built. No one does.
 
Hatbox Ghostbuster

Hatbox Ghostbuster

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TROR said:
But can you go to the real romantic, idealized Hollywood of the 30's, 40's, and 50's? Can you visit a turn of the century boardwalk? Or Route 66 in the 1960's during its heyday? No, you can't. Disney California Adventure should be your gateway these places.

There really is just so much potential with these lands, too, that has never been utilized. If DCA had a Gold Rush themed boat ride like PotC, or the Great Movie Ride, or Mystic Manor-esque attraction on the pier, I don't think people would have a problem with the California theme.


Yeah but Florida history also sucks for the most part. Pretty dull place.
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Is that how most people are viewing it though? I agree that done properly, a California-themed park could have great potential. I actually just had the thought of a gold-rush area myself.

But that's where you run into problems. I don't personally believe DCA has ever lived up to its theme, and it surely doesn't seem to want to, going forward. What does Bugsland have to do with CA history? What does a Pixar Pier have to do with California's golden years? Heck, they've already taken out what is the best CA-themed attraction in favor of "the world". I think they're failing, and will continue too.

Lastly, can you honestly say that when people queue up to get into DCA, their first thoughts are, "oh boy, can't wait to experience California at its finest!" Or do you suppose they say, "I sure hope the wait time for Radiator Springs Racers isn't too long."
 
GiveMeTheMusic

GiveMeTheMusic

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dweezil78 said:
All the studio parks are dated concepts now and most of them have been working to undo any ties to 'movie making magic' that was so predominant in the early attractions of all of them. 'Universal Studios' is just a theme park brand now for the most part with attractions that are based on movies, not necessarily movie making.

The only reason MGM Studios ever got built was because it was a knee jerk reaction to Universal encroaching on Disney's territory in Orlando and Eisner wanted to beat them to the punch. I have no idea why the Paris park ever got built. No one does.
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Eisner LOVED MGM and wanted to build one in Paris (originally a much more expensive Disney MGM Studios Europe), Burbank (in the form of a hybrid mall/mini park) and Tokyo. Why he was so enamored with the concept, I’ll never know.
 
Castle Cake Apologist

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BrianLo said:
Very oddly it seems like Marvel attractions could actually remain wholly unique across the board. Is this actually a concerted effort? Could someone actually be advocating against clones? @GiveMeTheMusic
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I believe there was buzz at one point of creating a Marvel Theme Park Universe (like the MCU), and part of that was having only unique attractions in each park. So far, they do seem to be living up to that idea.
 
mickEblu

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dweezil78 said:
Not sure if I'm in the minority here... but while I do love the Tron coaster, the rest of Shanghai's Tomorrowland looks like any modern airport that's been renovated/built in the past 10 years.
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I haven’t been in person but from what I’ve seen in videos I agree. It looks stale and dull, outside of Tron. The architecture isn’t inspiring and the land doesn’t seem to have any life or kinetic energy.
 
bluerhythym

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Hatbox Ghostbuster said:
While I see your point, I guess it just clashes with the idea of what a theme park should do (imo), which is take you out of reality and transport you to another place and time. The idea of celebrating California's history seems more befitting of a museum.

I can go to the real Route 66. I can go to the real Hollywood. I can go to the real Sequoias and Redwood forests all for a FRACTION of the price of a theme park ticket.

Call me crazy, but if I go to Florida specifically to go to DisneyWorld, the last thing I'd want to experience is a theme park designed around Florida.

For the record, Disney's America was going to be themed around history too, so I wouldn't have a problem with it's location. I would have a huge problem too if Disney's America wasn't built in the US. :)
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Why visit Main Street USA if you can go to the real Marceline, Missouri? Why go to Animal Kingdom when the real Africa is a short plane ride away?

I've been to Disney World, and I think a Jungle Cruise style ride through the Everglades would be incredible. Even if the mission of DCA was to just recreate real world California (its not), most people who visit this state are not taking the time to visit the deserts, the national forests, and all up and down the coastline. I don't know of any place that is more diverse and appropriate for a theme park than California.
 
Hatbox Ghostbuster

Hatbox Ghostbuster

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bluerhythym said:
Why visit Main Street USA if you can go to the real Marceline, Missouri? Why go to Animal Kingdom when the real Africa is a short plane ride away?

I've been to Disney World, and I think a Jungle Cruise style ride through the Everglades would be incredible. Even if the mission of DCA was to just recreate real world California (its not), most people who visit this state are not taking the time to visit the deserts, the national forests, and all up and down the coastline. I don't know of any place that is more diverse and appropriate for a theme park than California.
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lol. Main St works because Marceline is nowhere near southern California. It's also hardly what I would consider an attraction, and more of theming. But be honest, would you visit an entire theme park based around Marceline, MO? I don't think so. As for Africa...we might have differing opinions on what constitutes a "short plane ride". :)

I wouldn't mind an Everglades-themed attraction at WDW, but again, not an entire park. I guess its just different for me since I've lived in CA for almost 25 years. I know what it really has to offer, and its far greater than a theme-park's version (yes, even Disney). For the record, I have never once had the urge to visit DCA because I find myself drawn to its CA-theme in any way, shape, or form. I can understand how someone from out of state could, but its all lost on me.
 
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