Rumor D23 2024 WDW Rumors, Predictions & Discussion

[Soluna16]

Do we have any information at all on Villains Land schedule? D'Amaro said "earth is already being moved" which is obviously not true, they don't even have the permits yet. I saw somewhere classed it as "Construction Beginning Soon". I can't imagine we get Villains before like 2028/2029 but maybe I'm wrong.

 

[Advisable Joseph]

I also heard Zootopia for MK, which would be interesting.

Have you heard where in MK?

I think I found people on Twitter who would be OK with it near Tomorrowland.

However, I have noticed that people here think the whole place looks like downtown, and don't realize that there is a rainforest district of folks in treehouses, and literally buildings that look like trees, a district of rivers and canals, a district in the desert, etc. That is, a Zootopia in the west of the park could work visually.

 

[Moth]

Have you heard where in MK?

I think I found people on Twitter who would be OK with it near Tomorrowland.

However, I have noticed that people here think the whole place looks like downtown, and don't realize that there is a rainforest district of folks in treehouses, and literally buildings that look like trees, a district of rivers and canals, a district in the desert, etc. That is, a Zootopia in the west of the park could work visually

Zootopia was told by a source to me to be BBTM. I got told that a few months ago though, so if Cars and/or Villains is supposedly last minute.... maybe it was kicked around? The land is prime real-estate, wouldn't be shocked if they were thinking to bringing a plethora of IPs over before they settled on Cars and Villains.

 

[Advisable Joseph]

Zootopia was told by a source to me to be BBTM.

Of course, there is always the question of exactly where BBTM is.

I think I found someone who determined that Cars would, from the location of BTM on the concept art, would be around TSI, or hopefully to the north. Villians, I'm guessing, is just NW of Fantasyland.

The area W/NW of BTM might still be in play.

 

[Lilofan]

$60 million will barely pay for all the research trips to Capitol Hill needed to make Villains Land as authentic as possible.

Nah just had to do research in a particular area in South FL, won't approach $60M.

 

[sy278]

I think the loss of ambiance would forever change the feel of MK, it would take away much of the charm of that side of the park.

I’d be ok with losing the Tom Sawyer aspects, a smaller island, even losing the riverboat but can’t imagine that side of the park without the water. If they need a more direct access to the new areas just lose the boat and make a couple permanent bridges, you could even toss a couple rides on the island while you’re at it to better utilize the space.

I think they'll either change the LB to a smaller loop or moor her permanently and leave the RoA just at that section of Liberty square and along edge of Frontierland to TBA

 

[GhostHost1000]

Do we have any information at all on Villains Land schedule? D'Amaro said "earth is already being moved" which is obviously not true, they don't even have the permits yet. I saw somewhere classed it as "Construction Beginning Soon". I can't imagine we get Villains before like 2028/2029 but maybe I'm wrong.

Earth could be being moved if they are working on bringing in dirt from outside the parks to fill RoA

 

[JKick95]

Earth could be being moved if they are working on bringing in dirt from outside the parks to fill RoA

The dirt pile in the middle of the TTC parking lot is beginning to look smaller.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

Zootopia was told by a source to me to be BBTM. I got told that a few months ago though, so if Cars and/or Villains is supposedly last minute.... maybe it was kicked around? The land is prime real-estate, wouldn't be shocked if they were thinking to bringing a plethora of IPs over before they settled on Cars and Villains.

I am sure there are 20+ different pieces concept art for BBTM including Zootopia, and Toy Story, and Coco, and probably Frozen and many others

 

[networkpro]

Lets see if the stock market sees the announcements as a "hail mary" or react positive with increased stock prices.

 

[AidenRodriguez731]

I was thinking how they recently patented a ride system that could be used for that attraction.

That signals to me that the concept is still very much blue sky. Highly unlikely they canceled or axed it considering Moana’s popularity.

Just wasn’t ready to be showcased this time around.

That’s what I’m hoping at least.

I'm thinking that Moana is still the plan BUT they need stuff to announce for next D23 too and this year is very much about things that they have to get started with right now. They knew this year was important but saying they were adding 5 rides to Magic Kingdom over the next few years in 1 go would have definitely been too much and guaranteed that MK would barely be mentioned for the next 2 D23's. Possibly most of WDW with that level of investment.

 

[AidenRodriguez731]

I'm not talking about a new country but adding major attractions to the countries that are already there. Like the Mt Fuji coaster and the Rhine River cruise

That doesn't sell. Sorry to say, it's not the general public who wants that stuff. Is a family going to choose Disney over Universal for "Rhine River Cruise". No. Even if its one of the most elaborate rides. Is Little Suzie going to ask her parents for $100 of Rhine River Merch? No. Put Tangled there and... well now you have a possible yes for both of those.

 

[marni1971]

They didn't HAVE TO rip out Energy to build Guardians.

In their eyes they did. There were a multitude of reasons

 

[marni1971]

That doesn't sell. Sorry to say, it's not the general public who wants that stuff. Is a family going to choose Disney over Universal for "Rhine River Cruise". No. Even if it’s one of the most elaborate rides. Is Little Suzie going to ask her parents for $100 of Rhine River Merch? No. Put Tangled there and... well now you have a possible yes for both of those.

That’s a great example of one of the biggest changes in how P&R now works. They used to build things we didn’t know we wanted and we fell in love with them. Now they only build things they think we want.

 

[Brer Panther]

Look what's been happening to the Looney Tunes gang. One stinkeroo after another.

I liked the recent Looney Tunes Cartoons shorts on HBO Max.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Lets see if the stock market sees the announcements as a "hail mary" or react positive with increased stock prices.

Wall Street hated the announcement of $60B in the parks despite Iger pointing out that the parks are, right now, the biggest ROI on investment.

Wall Street would rather that $60B be spent on buy-backs and dividends, you know, on themselves.

Wall Street day-traders have no concern for the long term health of any business.

 

[andysol]

Have you heard where in MK?

I think I found people on Twitter who would be OK with it near Tomorrowland.

However, I have noticed that people here think the whole place looks like downtown, and don't realize that there is a rainforest district of folks in treehouses, and literally buildings that look like trees, a district of rivers and canals, a district in the desert, etc. That is, a Zootopia in the west of the park could work visually.

I know Zootopia gets mentioned a lot for WDW, but having been to the land, it really doesn’t translate well for our parks.
It’s built, specifically, for the picture taking culture of China.

It was a cool land but would not have nearly the positive reaction here.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

In their eyes they did. There were a multitude of reasons

My main point being, in a literal sense, "there is plenty of acreage in Orlando where they could have built Guardians on a fresh pad."

 

[Lilofan]

Wall Street hated the announcement of $60B in the parks despite Iger pointing out that the parks are, right now, the biggest ROI on investment.

Wall Street would rather that $60B be spent on buy-backs and dividends, you know, on themselves.

Wall Street day-traders have no concern for the long term health of any business.

Buybacks do help execs ( not just Disney ) earn more in that stock options ( an huge part of the exec annual compensation ) are more and when they cash in it is substantial.

 

[Dunston]

When the 2026 recession cancels all these plans