IanDLBZF
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Said nobody I knew, ever.The original user was stating that WDW has barely added a new attraction in the past decade...
Said nobody I knew, ever.The original user was stating that WDW has barely added a new attraction in the past decade...
So you're for real? That first post about the poor slobs with their subway sandwiches and Doritos wasn't sarcasm?The people washing their kids in drinking fountains and eating the Burger King they picked up on the way in. They then throw the empty bag on the ground. Disney has no need for them as the only money they pay is on tickets, not food or merch. Disney is clearly trying to price that crowd out and I don't personally have a problem with that.
Don't take offense to it....I'm a single parent as well and still take my child often. The point I was making was it is much harder and more expensive to vacate at Disney than it once was. The price increases over the past 10 years has been exponential and way more than the average median income has gone upOk I'm sorry, but that's just not true, and kind of offensive. I am the sole parent of my child, I still get through life. I still take my child on vacations.
And people aren't working because of Disney, they are working bc as I previously mentioned- almost everything is more expensive now. So we work longer hours or dual incomes than previous generations.
I'm not disputing that. But people are forgetting that a lot more happened during those years in this country than just a new ceo at Disney.
The people washing their kids in drinking fountains and eating the Burger King they picked up on the way in. They then throw the empty bag on the ground. Disney has no need for them as the only money they pay is on tickets, not food or merch. Disney is clearly trying to price that crowd out and I don't personally have a problem with that.
In my experience my, company, who is a company that is 100% in the business of entertainment just this year had their first wage increases in the past 6 years. Yes I could have gotten another job but every other position in my field was paying the same and had less benefits.Don't take offense to it....I'm a single parent as well and still take my child often. The point I was making was it is much harder and more expensive to vacate at Disney than it once was. The price increases over the past 10 years has been exponential and way more than the average median income has gone up
LOL. Ok then.Last year we were sitting at the tables out where that little food market is right out outside of the Hall of Presidents. We saw a family of 5 eating their own lunch they had brought in with them, they didnt appear to be slobs at all, in fact it appeared they had a nanny with them.
The cost of average food at WDW in insanely high, I do not blame anyone that decides to skip paying their insane prices for mediocre food.
You have no idea where these people spend their money, you're making big assumptions that just because they brought in food that they are not spending money on other things in the park.
LOL. Ok then.
I assume Disney doesn't care if the spendthrifts ever return.
you do know a spendthrift is someone that spends lots of money, not someone who is thrifty... a spendthrift would never bring their lunch to the park and would have signature dining for every meal...if not a special catered dining experience.LOL. Ok then.
I assume Disney doesn't care if the spendthrifts ever return.
Sorry--you're right.you do know a spendthrift is someone that spends lots of money, not someone who is thrifty... a spendthrift would never bring their lunch to the park and would have signature dining for every meal...if not a special catered dining experience.
I do. I think Disney did this backwards. They should have freshened the parks and then risen prices like DL did after Carsland opened. Raising prices before at least opening AVATAR feels tone-deaf.Do you think more people would spend more if the quality of the product was better?
I don't consider myself "thrifty" as compared to others, but I stopped buying T-Shirts at disney awhile ago.
The cheap T-Shirts they sell don't last long. Over the past 10 years I've puchashed maybe 10 or so T-Shirts, only one has lasted longer than a year or so. Coincidentally its probably the first one i bought.
Eventually it has to catch up to them...they have pushed it to the limit of what people will pay while reducing not only the number of attractions, but also general quality of the experiences...including merchandise and food... Guess it looks good to Wall Street, but they have in my opinion dmaged their brand, and it will cost more to repair it than if they had just kept up with it to begin with.I do. I think Disney did this backwards. They should have freshened the parks and then risen prices like DL did after Carsland opened. Raising prices before at least opening AVATAR feels tone-deaf.
I do agree that the merch is garbage largely although better than 5 years ago (still not good).
Do you think more people would spend more if the quality of the product was better?
I don't consider myself "thrifty" as compared to others, but I stopped buying T-Shirts at disney awhile ago.
The cheap T-Shirts they sell don't last long. Over the past 10 years I've puchashed maybe 10 or so T-Shirts, only one has lasted longer than a year or so. Coincidentally its probably the first one i bought.
Ok so what I see people saying the most is - "in the past 6-15 years".
I just think it's important to remember what this country has been through during that time span. Also to look at the travel industry as a whole, especially in Florida. Travel prices have risen drastically, yes. But they have risen across the board. People ARE spending money again. (Most) People have recovered from the recession. The millennials weren't even hit by it, so you have a new group with money to spend. Gen X'rs who weren't terribly hit were too scared to spend their money previously, and are now spending it.
Because of this prices have risen. To do an accurate and fair comparison you can't just compare WDW today with WDW 10 years ago.
Ok so what I see people saying the most is - "in the past 6-15 years".
I just think it's important to remember what this country has been through during that time span. Also to look at the travel industry as a whole, especially in Florida. Travel prices have risen drastically, yes. But they have risen across the board. People ARE spending money again. (Most) People have recovered from the recession. The millennials weren't even hit by it, so you have a new group with money to spend. Gen X'rs who weren't terribly hit were too scared to spend their money previously, and are now spending it.
Because of this prices have risen. To do an accurate and fair comparison you can't just compare WDW today with WDW 10 years ago. You have to compare it against the industry- and when doing so you will realize it's not far off of what everyone else is doing.![]()
Regardless - the Walt Disney company has never been more profitable.
I am lucky. I live in Florida. I am a life long fan and my first trip was in 1972.
I can afford to go. I am choosing not to. For me - this has nothing to do with the economy , gator attacks, mass murder or any other external forces. I suspect I'm not alone.
As I recall, you collect data based on Disney's reported wait times.More "people in line" data for other parks, June 2016, 10 am to 5 pm (so not counting anyone who came to AK just for the evening stuff):
MK: Up around 17%
EP: +5%
DHS: No change from 2015
AK: -3%
WDW: +9%
My first thought was that looks like a 10% cut in capacity/staffing, coupled with a 1% decline in attendance. Again, we could be totally wrong on this.
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