Creepy New Survey Question....

dstrawn9889

Well-Known Member
they switch the flip, locate us with the satellites, and cook us with Y-rays....
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GeneralZod

Well-Known Member
I'm kind of torn on this one as it is a slippery slope. I am a huge privacy advocate, but (limitedly) less so when is comes to my ability to alter services based on consumption patterns. For instance, had I been a member of the Nielson process Firefly would never have been cancelled!

If my purchasing and touring patterns can play into the future of Disney, then I am a little more open to it while on property...as in Disney will never see me attend Stitches Great Escape or Journey Into Imagination, but can feel free to track my multiple rides on Splash Mountain and Haunted Mansion.
 

G00fyDad

Well-Known Member
The US government was collecting information on all of your phone calls. How is that not something we consider trivial? You may not immediately grasp why your shopping at MouseGear is valuable but it very much is valuable for any number of purposes.

They can have that information of mine.

Dear US Government,
You have my permission to listen to all of my phone calls, read all of my emails, collect as much data about me as you want, etc. Why am I freely giving you this permission? Because I'm not trying to hide anything! If you want to be stupid and waste your time watching me then you are not doing your jobs.
 

lazyboy97o

Well-Known Member
They can have that information of mine.

Dear US Government,
You have my permission to listen to all of my phone calls, read all of my emails, collect as much data about me as you want, etc. Why am I freely giving you this permission? Because I'm not trying to hide anything! If you want to be stupid and waste your time watching me then you are not doing your jobs.
The problem isn't what you think would be worth hiding.
 

Witchy Chick

Well-Known Member
At least they are asking permission??
Everyone here is being tracked with everything we do from grocery shopping to a beach trip. Every credit card and phone gps knows exactly where you are and what your doing. Let's not forget cameras on every corner and street. Unless we use cash and are basically off the grid, that's the world we live in. Its totally insane anymore.
I went to the doctors 3 weeks ago for a check up and they asked for my insurance card and drivers license. I said why do you need my license? They said they just want to make a copy and keep it in my records. I said no, I don't want that floating around in the cloud. I told them I'll show it to them to prove its me but that's it. She called a supervisor over and they were lost on how to proceed. They said," everyone hands it over, it's our policy". I said I'll find another doctor.
Sounds like I'm a conspiracy nut but every day someone is getting hacked so I try and not let all my info get out there.
As for Disney, I'm surprised it took this long.

At a recent annual checkup, I was asked to supply my SSN. Uhhhhhh no way.

Exactly -

And for the 'I have nothing to hide' crowd I recommend the book 'Three Felonies a Day' which is the modern extension of Cardinal Richelieu's famous comment "Give me six lines written by the most honest man alive and I will find something to hang him with' and in that context he meant the death penalty.

As to camera's in your homes do you have a NannyCam or PetCam. Well the Police in the US are about to get access to ALL CAMERAS WITHOUT A WARRANT.

https://www.wired.com/2016/05/new-surveillance-system-let-cops-use-cameras/

We are definitely heading to a place none of us really want to be.

For those that didn't read the article:

Computer scientists have created a way of letting law enforcement tap any camera that isn’t password protected so they can determine where to send help or how to respond to a crime.

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The Visual Analytics Law Enforcement Toolkit superimposes the rate and location of crimes and the location of police surveillance cameras. CAM2 reveals the location and orientation of public network cameras, like the one outside your apartment.

and

Granted, the system does not tap private feeds, nor does it peer into private spaces like someone’s home.
 

ford91exploder

Resident Curmudgeon
At a recent annual checkup, I was asked to supply my SSN. Uhhhhhh no way.



For those that didn't read the article:



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If you go to the CMU site on CAM2 you will find that ANY TCP/IP based camera can be accessed as the idea is to build a 'backdoor' into camera software so that LEO's can tap into them in the event of an 'Emergency'. Sorry no. buh-by Petcam designed so I can keep an eye on the Siamese (who make Si and Am look like amateurs).
 

Goofyernmost

Well-Known Member
The US government was collecting information on all of your phone calls. How is that not something we consider trivial? You may not immediately grasp why your shopping at MouseGear is valuable but it very much is valuable for any number of purposes.
You may be right, however, I am a very cynical person (you probably hadn't noticed). So I'll have to ask you to give us one example about what I buy at MouseGear could be of any interest to anyone in the government. Unless, of course, they were just interested in being bored to death. To extend the intentions of the government into a business practice at Walt Disney World is a bit of a stretch. Remember, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
 

lazyboy97o

Well-Known Member
You may be right, however, I am a very cynical person (you probably hadn't noticed). So I'll have to ask you to give us one example about what I buy at MouseGear could be of any interest to anyone in the government. Unless, of course, they were just interested in being bored to death. To extend the intentions of the government into a business practice at Walt Disney World is a bit of a stretch. Remember, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
Very detailed profiles can be built using a person's shopping habits. That is the whole reason there is a market to purchase such data and why Disney would invest billions to better gather such data. Profiles on spending habits could be helpful in financial investigations. Maybe you spent a little too much on souvenirs this time around and now the IRS or your state department of revenue is going to start turning your life upside down to find out what you may be hiding.
 

ford91exploder

Resident Curmudgeon
Very detailed profiles can be built using a person's shopping habits. That is the whole reason there is a market to purchase such data and why Disney would invest billions to better gather such data. Profiles on spending habits could be helpful in financial investigations. Maybe you spent a little too much on souvenirs this time around and now the IRS or your state department of revenue is going to start turning your life upside down to find out what you may be hiding.

And don't think for a minute that your Disney shopping profile with all your PII is not up for sale by one of Disney's 'Partners'.
 

Matt_Black

Well-Known Member
And now, as a public service, I have compiled some ACTUAL creepy survey questions.

"Using MyMagic+, we tracked your last restroom break and analyzed the contents; would you like to know if we suggest a prostate exam?"
"So, that's what you and the missus get up to in the bedroom on vacation, eh?"
"Have you heard of the Great Old Ones?"
 

Goofyernmost

Well-Known Member
Very detailed profiles can be built using a person's shopping habits. That is the whole reason there is a market to purchase such data and why Disney would invest billions to better gather such data. Profiles on spending habits could be helpful in financial investigations. Maybe you spent a little too much on souvenirs this time around and now the IRS or your state department of revenue is going to start turning your life upside down to find out what you may be hiding.
Except that Disney would be a idiots to tell others what their customers are buying. Friendly competition is one thing, but, telling your competition what your customers buy would be insane. As far as I can tell Disney does a huge amount of mining, but, it is for their own benefit, not to benefit others in the same business. I have never seen anything, not generated by Disney, show up online that could even be remotely connected to them selling information only using the information they accumulated. Facebook, on the other hand has picked up on everything I have ever said. Last year I mentioned to friends on Facebook that I had been diagnosed with Prostate Cancer. Want to guess what shows up on my computer every day. If you guessed, Prostate treatments, one after the other, congratulations. Course that could be age too, but, I was old before last summer and never saw those ads.
 

ford91exploder

Resident Curmudgeon
Except that Disney would be a idiots to tell others what their customers are buying. Friendly competition is one thing, but, telling your competition what your customers buy would be insane. As far as I can tell Disney does a huge amount of mining, but, it is for their own benefit, not to benefit others in the same business. I have never seen anything, not generated by Disney, show up online that could even be remotely connected to them selling information only using the information they accumulated. Facebook, on the other hand has picked up on everything I have ever said. Last year I mentioned to friends on Facebook that I had been diagnosed with Prostate Cancer. Want to guess what shows up on my computer every day. If you guessed, Prostate treatments, one after the other, congratulations. Course that could be age too, but, I was old before last summer and never saw those ads.

Not if the customers are Government or companies not in the same lines of business, Recall the government purchases data from third parties for which it is not allowed to collect, So the act of BUYING The data from Disney or anyone else makes it all ok, Laws in this case need to be re-written as possess instead of collect.
 

ford91exploder

Resident Curmudgeon
And now, as a public service, I have compiled some ACTUAL creepy survey questions.

"Using MyMagic+, we tracked your last restroom break and analyzed the contents; would you like to know if we suggest a prostate exam?"
"So, that's what you and the missus get up to in the bedroom on vacation, eh?"
"Have you heard of the Great Old Ones?"

Right about now a government by Cthulu and his other Great Old Ones seems quite a bit more soothing than what we have in DC today.
 

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