Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[Lilofan]

Maybe I'm not understanding. Phased opening to me means if it was open today only magic Kingdom would be open. But I paid to visit all 4 parks during my stay.

There would have to be a tweak in your plans and hope you like riding Its a Small World quite possibly 5 days in a row.

 

[disney4life2008]

Closed through fall? Meaning the fall semester? I'm not sure about that

Sorry many Universities here start during the summer. So closed through August 1.

 

[disney4life2008]

There would have to be a tweak in your plans and hope you like riding Its a Small World quite possibly 5 days in a row.

LOL its not that much magic Kingdom in the world

 

[GoofGoof]

Maybe I'm not understanding. Phased opening to me means if it was open today only magic Kingdom would be open. But I paid to visit all 4 parks during my stay.

APs would lose the most value. The price you pay assumes access to the 4 parks. They could also offer a discounted multi-day pass like the 4 day, 4 park one offered recently but with less parks.

I would assume MK opens first but DHS would be right behind it with SWGE. AK is probably the most ready to open park since the animals are all still being cared for. I think EPCOT is the biggest question mark. Considering the large construction project and the emphasis on meals in world showcase it has the most potential to be delayed to open.

 

[DCBaker]

Florida numbers - in the last 24 hours, 1,142 new cases were reported, with 48 additional deaths.

All counties in FL are now reporting cases.

 

[Kevin_W]

Not an overreaction. All signs indicate opening things too soon would lead to a huge spike. Disney is in a precarious position for two reasons: One is that their line of business, along with sports/concerts, is really the absolute worst kind to reopen in this climate. No amount of social distancing or temperature checks will make it a safe place to visit. Second, as a good corporate citizen, Disney has to factor in that most guests would travel to them. An outbreak at WDW could lead to mini-outbreaks all over the country.

Well, we don't *think* it's an overreaction. Every model made so far has been very wrong, so it's possible that models about what reopening would do are wrong as well. But I think you are right that Disney would err on the side of caution, particularly if public opinion were on that side.

 

[TrojanUSC]

Shouldn’t matter TBH. We should have treatments and capacity to deal with mini outbreaks. If we don’t, then GD, have we failed.

Eventually yes, by June no.

 

[ImperfectPixie]

Well, we don't *think* it's an overreaction. Every model made so far has been very wrong, so it's possible that models about what reopening would do are wrong as well. But I think you are right that Disney would err on the side of caution, particularly if public opinion were on that side.

There are studies coming out that suggest we've vastly underestimated the number of people who currently have or have had the virus, too.

 

[MickeyLuv'r]

there are teacher contracts.

(to clarify they generally don’t specify a specific date, but they are a very specific number of instructional days).

I'd say it in reverse- there are federal, state, and local laws, which then determine contracts. Typically, 180 days of a certain min length.




The Elementary and Secondary Education Act is the largest federal law that authorizes federal spending on K-12 public education. To receive this money, states must meet certain requirements. If a state doesn’t meet these requirements, the federal government can withhold federal funding. Each state’s legislature determines how the state will fulfill the requirements.

Federal policy also guides what states, districts, and schools must do to ensure they are serving each and every student fairly and appropriately.

Federal mandates also address family privacy and the health and safety of students and school personnel.

 

[MickeyLuv'r]

I couldn't find any evidence of this. I work at a public college in Michigan and the most I've seen here are the quiet rumblings of "what if" we can't have in person classes in the fall. I think it's a fear and definitely something those of us who work in Higher Ed. should be considering but I don't believe any school has made the decision. When the first campus closures went into effect this year, the news spread like wildfire through our professional groups and on social media. I'd be shocked if it had happened and wasn't being discussed more.

A number of schools were already offering full credit online courses before this began.

Those courses were already pretty popular, we might see that trend continue next year in higher ed.

 

[thomas998]

Correct. He didn’t say it was paid for when ordered.

He said it was paid for well before it was installed. Since installation has already begun that means it has already been paid for.

Again you are missing the point. This was not directed at a specific coaster but to all coasters that Disney might install. If you want to get back to the Guardians ride then Disney isn't putting it in they outsourced the coast to Vekoma who will be doing the actual coaster and they will not be paid in full until the coaster is operational.

 

[TrojanUSC]

I doubt you will see it before late June at the earliest. July more likely

Exactly. From the Orlando mayor today:

“I believe, given the models, it could be June — early June — where we see some relaxing of the restrictions in place. But they would have to stay in place to some degree through late summer.”

 

[JoeCamel]

Again you are missing the point. This was not directed at a specific coaster but to all coasters that Disney might install. If you want to get back to the Guardians ride then Disney isn't putting it in they outsourced the coast to Vekoma who will be doing the actual coaster and they will not be paid in full until the coaster is operational.

Still?? ^ ^ ^ ??

 

[peter11435]

Still?? ^ ^ ^ ??

Apparently he doesn’t think @lazyboy97o knows what he’s talking about

 

[xdan0920]

Eventually yes, by June no.

I think by June. Otherwise we have failed. That’s two months. That’s a long time.

 

[TrojanUSC]

I think by June. Otherwise we have failed. That’s two months. That’s a long time.

No, we have not failed. The Orlando mayor said today that some restrictions may be lifted sometime in June, but the rest not until late summer. Disney, being one of the worst places to properly socially distance, would likely fall into the latter category.

Mayor Jerry Demings: Orange County businesses could be closed into June

It will likely be awhile before all Orange County businesses are back up and running.

www.clickorlando.com

 

[xdan0920]

No, we have not failed. The Orlando mayor said today that some restrictions may be lifted sometime in June, but the rest not until late summer. Disney, being one of the worst places to properly socially distance, would likely fall into the latter category.

Mayor Jerry Demings: Orange County businesses could be closed into June

It will likely be awhile before all Orange County businesses are back up and running.

www.clickorlando.com

Mayhaps you didn’t read the entire chain of conversation?
I’ll sum it up for you since you seem disinclined to simply read 3-4 separate posts.
If we don’t have treatment and capacity to deal with mini outbreaks by June, then we have failed.

 

[DCBaker]

"At a news conference Friday, Beshear said any person who attends a mass gathering this weekend will have their license plate recorded and reported to the state's health department by Kentucky State Police troopers. A worker from the health department will then contact anyone at the mass gathering to inform them that they must self-quarantine at home for 14 days."

"Beshear said the license plates of those at drive-thru church services will not be reported but reminded everyone to remain in their vehicles at all times."

Beshear: Any person going to mass gathering this weekend will have their license plate reported

Kentucky Gov. Beshear is taking additional measures this weekend to stop the spread of COVID-19.

www.wlwt.com

 

[lazyboy97o]

Again you are missing the point. This was not directed at a specific coaster but to all coasters that Disney might install. If you want to get back to the Guardians ride then Disney isn't putting it in they outsourced the coast to Vekoma who will be doing the actual coaster and they will not be paid in full until the coaster is operational.

No. Vekoma sells their coasters ex-works. They do not assemble or commission. They sell a kit of parts and for a separate fee will provide project management support. Outside of a few select vendors, steel coasters are not a turnkey product. The coasters are OFCI, owner furnished contractor installed. The two coasters are being handled by separate general contractors who were both shut down by Disney. Ride control software is custom by Imagineering. Disney cannot get their money back from Vekoma even if they decide to leave both sitting there, which is why it is unlikely they would be totally abandoned, the sunk costs for both are very high.

 

[PeoplemoverTTA]

Well, it's close to home now. My SIL (who works at a hospital) has tested positive. She's sequestering herself in an upstairs bedroom of their house. Hopefully, being very healthy works in her favor. She's mid-40s.

Sending positive thoughts to your family!!