SamusAranX
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Well, "minor" is in the eye of the beholder.
I believe the risk of exposure was hovering at 1 percent or below. To me, that's minor. Minor enough to brave a Disney trip though? Doubtful.
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I believe the risk of exposure was hovering at 1 percent or below. To me, that's minor. Minor enough to brave a Disney trip though? Doubtful.
SamusAranX
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Per CNN
More than 99.99% of people who are fully vaccinated against Covid-19 have not had a breakthrough case resulting in hospitalization or death, according to a CNN analysis of data from the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
As of Aug. 2, more than 164 million people in the United States were fully vaccinated against Covid-19, according to the CDC. Fewer than 0.001% of those individuals — 1,507 people — died and fewer than 0.005% — 7,101 people — were hospitalized with Covid-19.
CDC last published data on breakthrough cases through July 26. These latest figures include 938 additional severe breakthrough cases — 862 additional hospitalizations and 244 additional deaths — reported over that seven-day period. The CDC does not provide more detail about the timing of the breakthrough cases.
About three-quarters (74%) of all reported breakthrough cases were among seniors age 65 or older. Of the roughly 1,500 people who died, one in five passed away from something other than Covid-19 even though they had a breakthrough case of the virus, according to the CDC.
Since May, the CDC has focused on investigating only hospitalized or fatal cases among those who have been fully vaccinated.
According to the CDC, this data relies on “passive and voluntary reporting” and are a “snapshot” to “help identify patterns and look for signals among vaccine breakthrough cases.”
“To date, no unexpected patterns have been identified in the case demographics or vaccine characteristics among people with reported vaccine breakthrough infections,” according to the CDC.
CDC: More than 99.99% of fully vaccinated people have not had a severe breakthrough case of Covid-19
From CNN's Deidre McPhillipsMore than 99.99% of people who are fully vaccinated against Covid-19 have not had a breakthrough case resulting in hospitalization or death, according to a CNN analysis of data from the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
As of Aug. 2, more than 164 million people in the United States were fully vaccinated against Covid-19, according to the CDC. Fewer than 0.001% of those individuals — 1,507 people — died and fewer than 0.005% — 7,101 people — were hospitalized with Covid-19.
CDC last published data on breakthrough cases through July 26. These latest figures include 938 additional severe breakthrough cases — 862 additional hospitalizations and 244 additional deaths — reported over that seven-day period. The CDC does not provide more detail about the timing of the breakthrough cases.
About three-quarters (74%) of all reported breakthrough cases were among seniors age 65 or older. Of the roughly 1,500 people who died, one in five passed away from something other than Covid-19 even though they had a breakthrough case of the virus, according to the CDC.
Since May, the CDC has focused on investigating only hospitalized or fatal cases among those who have been fully vaccinated.
According to the CDC, this data relies on “passive and voluntary reporting” and are a “snapshot” to “help identify patterns and look for signals among vaccine breakthrough cases.”
“To date, no unexpected patterns have been identified in the case demographics or vaccine characteristics among people with reported vaccine breakthrough infections,” according to the CDC.
danlb_2000
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At the very least this data is being collected by the pharmaceutical companies from the people in the trials.
LittleBuford
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Is that you trying to sound British? Love it!
Sirwalterraleigh
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I’d like to see any math that gives “odds” at exposure without it being laced with supposition in it?
TrainsOfDisney
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I don’t think any of the USA vaccines are significantly better or worse or we’d be hearing about that. But I could be wrong! Haha.
LittleBuford
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Indeed. I’m not a fan of either brother.
Sirwalterraleigh
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That is a trackable study on case severity…not “exposure”
not saying you’re saying that…
but a lot of people lately have been touting severe cases documented by health care as somekind of proof you “won’t get it”….not the same
mf1972
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the parks & resorts were the 1st thing that came to mind. my bad.
LaughingGravy
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I heard "Idiots!" in a Napoleon Dynamite voice when I read it.Idiots!
Anti-vaccine protesters storm BBC HQ â years after it moved out
Group gain access to old Television Centre in west London, which is now mostly rented by ITV daytime showswww.theguardian.com
SamusAranX
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I didn’t mean for that post to be associated with my posts on exposure risk.
I was posting that because well, good news is good news
kong1802
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We are on our fourth Potter book so I’m basically fluent now. Lol
And yes I was hoping you would notice….
I would LOVE to see the data on vaccinated people who could still spread the virus. I'd be almost willing to bet the CDC doesn't have alot if any solid data outside that one situation in Provincetown? over the 4th of July. I have seen one study from the UK since that kinda refuted alot of the CDC's findings.
Fully vaccinated people can still spread the virus, but they do NOT carry the same amount of the virus (CDC said they had the same as an unvaccinated person) and are infections for around 24 hours at best. Also not all fully vaxxed breakthrough cases are infections, only about 1 in 10 according to that study. If that's solid data the chances of a fully vaccinated person spreading covid are VERY small and for a VERY tiny window.
That decision by the CDC prompted Disney to change their indoor mask guidance again. I only hope they change it back within the next 6 months.
Fully vaccinated people can still spread the virus, but they do NOT carry the same amount of the virus (CDC said they had the same as an unvaccinated person) and are infections for around 24 hours at best. Also not all fully vaxxed breakthrough cases are infections, only about 1 in 10 according to that study. If that's solid data the chances of a fully vaccinated person spreading covid are VERY small and for a VERY tiny window.
That decision by the CDC prompted Disney to change their indoor mask guidance again. I only hope they change it back within the next 6 months.
LittleBuford
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James J
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My wife is from the US and moved here to the UK in February last year. It's funny to see how saying things are 'proper' has quickly become part of her vocabulary!
kong1802
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Putting proper in front of an insult is one of my favorite things.
My wife's family is English and they get a kick (probably actually annoyed but they are too polite to say so) out of hearing me throw it in front of everything.
awoogala
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I was horribly ill for 2.5 days after both pfizer shots. Migraine, nausea, exhaustion. I slept for almost 20 hours straight. My daughter as well. Son and husband just had sore arms and exhaustion. I hope it means my immune system took it seriously, and got strong antibodies.
Yup I suppose you never really know. Conjecture both ways. High risk or low risk. Unless they start with models from previous pandemics that have a lot of data. Which I suppose they do.
That is an interesting comment about the media. One person gets killed by an alligator in WDW and its national news. I would think park visitors, who were there at the same time, testing positive would make the news also. Especially in a high profile place like that.
If, as a hypothetical, one park visitor did test positive and recent movements backtracked... and assuming he/she stayed at a hotel not someone that lived locally... the hotel would be informed. The room this person stayed in would be cleared and sanitized again... just in case... and occupants after that person (not to mentioned employees) would have to be notified and recommended they be tested. Or, if the person was local, his/her family would be asked to be tested as well. Indentities would be secret of course but the fact that it happened would get out. It always does. Certainly on Disney-centric websites.
The absence of evidence is not proof. Despite what cable *news* does 24/7. Just possibilities.
Sirwalterraleigh
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It does and you are MUCH better off now
danlb_2000
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That's why collecting that data is important.
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