More importantly we live in world where we can’t trust anything the media writes.More importantly we live in world where we can’t trust the headlines
More importantly we live in world where we can’t trust anything the media writes.More importantly we live in world where we can’t trust the headlines
More importantly we live in world where we can’t trust anything the media writes.
As a side note, suicide rates have been rising for quite a few years but in 2020 they decreased despite a lot rumors.
2020 suicide rate
Baye’s Theorem helps explain why hospitalization rates for the vaccinated appear high
I read a lot in recent years about the link in teen suicides and social media. It would make sense that, during a lock down, where kids are forced to stay home and social media use skyrockets, that suicides would too. I never really bought into the idea that the lockdown itself was the cause (it never was).
I think the idea is that there are more vaccinated people than unvaccinated people (especially in a place like England where this report came from) and thus they have a larger pool to pull from. The example given would work better for Israel, which has a large majority of the population vaccinated and thus has been subject to news articles claiming “the high rate of vaccinated people in hospitals in Israel proves vaccines don’t work” without any hint of irony.While this makes sense, why would the vaccinated make up 950/1000 of those cases, hospitalized or not? That seems insanely high.
While this makes sense, why would the vaccinated make up 950/1000 of those cases, hospitalized or not? That seems insanely high.
I think the idea is that there are more vaccinated people than unvaccinated people (especially in a place like England where this report came from) and thus they have a larger pool to pull from. The example given would work better for Israel, which has a large majority of the population vaccinated and thus has been subject to news articles claiming “the high rate of vaccinated people in hospitals in Israel proves vaccines don’t work” without any hint of irony.
Besides the problem of the health minister there completely goofing on his numbers and having to correct on Twitter after everyone ran with the story, it’d also be helpful to know the level of hospitalization (aka mild or serious issue) in those groups.
It's the former.
Not to say that a reinstatement of a mask requirement isn't possible (it definitely is), but is FB really a reliable enough source that it's worth considering it a confirmation that it's happening?and tonight on Fresh Baked, David said it's going to happen, and soon.
I didn't mean it to sound like confirmation it was happening, but he said he's heard rumblings that it is. I trust that he has sources, as he obviously spends a lot of time covering Disneyland. He didn't make it sound like it was just a rumor or speculation of what may happen, he made it sound like the decision has already been made.Not to say that a reinstatement of a mask requirement isn't possible (it definitely is), but is FB really a reliable enough source that it's worth considering it a confirmation that it's happening?
I don't watch them, so maybe they've got a better track record than the impression I get from them here do to a few of their past Snafus like confusing a new shade structure for Monorail track and proof of it being rerouted.
Not to say that a reinstatement of a mask requirement isn't possible (it definitely is), but is FB really a reliable enough source that it's worth considering it a confirmation that it's happening?
I don't watch them, so maybe they've got a better track record than the impression I get from them here do to a few of their past Snafus like confusing a new shade structure for Monorail track and proof of it being rerouted.
While true that people watching have their own biased, so, too, do the journalists reporting, and therefore it’s hard to find honest journalism, and this applies to both sides. Financial and personal interest result in propaganda. News is a product to sell and a way to sway public perception, not a way of transmitting honest, unbiased factual information. Nobody should trust the news.
The former. And you should question everything they say. The problem is, people generally don't. The media is full of half-truths.
The former. And you should question everything they say. The problem is, people generally don't. The media is full of half-truths.
I completely agree. You explain it very well.This whole thing is just sad! Honestly I was very naïve when the vaccinations came around but I thought by the end of summer we would basically be back to normal. It looks like things were really improving and MAYBE if it wasn't for the new variant it wouldn't be so bad even with less vaccinations. But here we are. Now we're talking about wearing masks again and while I don't THINK it will happen, maybe even shut downs in certain parts of the country. PLEASE don't let that happen again!
I found out there are people from other countries (ie rich people) who are now taking trips to America just to get vaccinated even if they have to stay a few weeks to do it. And yet people who actually live here and can get it today are denying it for eye rolling ridiculous reasons. If people are TRULY concerned about possible side effects in the future, OK, that I can understand. Everything else, just plain lunacy, especially with all the misinformation out there.
To be fair people are still getting vaccinated everyday but clearly not enough. Just get vaccinated! Most countries would give anything right now to have the access we have to turn it around. And yet...
The way Delta is hitting, and the way people are behaving, a lot of unvaccinated adults are going to die. And a large # of vaccinated are going to get mild to medium cases of Covid. Sadly, some may die, but that will be dwarfed by the # of unvaccinated that are going to die each day for the next couple of months. It's the choice they've made, and it's what they want. And the big Corporations like Disney are done with shutdowns, capacity limits, social distancing and to some extent, masks. That is why the parks will remain open, concerts and sporting events will be at full capacity, while 1,000, 1,500, 2000+ people are dying each day from Covid.
Interesting, I hadn't seen this. Thank you for sharing, I knew the rate was rising before the pandemic and had assumed the pandemic just coincided with a rising rate and wasn't the cause of it, so it's good to hear it actually went down. I thought it was insane though they said the calls received by the suicide hotline increased by 891% in March of 2020, very sad but makes a lot of sense given everything that happened around that time.As a side note, suicide rates have been rising for quite a few years but in 2020 they decreased despite a lot rumors.
2020 suicide rate
I don't think we are going to see near the deaths you think there will be; however, I do think overall you are closer to the truth than not.I completely agree. You explain it very well.
I don't think that places like Disneyland will be shut again. I'm not even sure how much the parks are going to limit capacity over the remaining summer weeks. Everyone is getting geeked for the Halloween stuff, and I'm beginning to wonder whether that's such a good idea. I expect those will go forward as well.
Honestly, I'm beginning to believe that the government is just going to let it play out. Allow the virus and Delta variant to run it's course. There will be a LOT of deaths, in a short period of time. But they'll be almost entirely unvaccinated people. Some children under 12, currently ineligible, may perish as well. Sad, but this is going to happen regardless of which course the country took.
Those who want to get back to normal, as if everything is fine, while not getting vaccinated nor wearing a mask, can have their way. The rest of us who did get shots, can choose whether we want to wear a mask when around others. I plan to start doing that religiously again. Absolutely indoors, and it's looking more and more like outdoors is a good idea too.
The way Delta is hitting, and the way people are behaving, a lot of unvaccinated adults are going to die. And a large # of vaccinated are going to get mild to medium cases of Covid. Sadly, some may die, but that will be dwarfed by the # of unvaccinated that are going to die each day for the next couple of months. It's the choice they've made, and it's what they want. And the big Corporations like Disney are done with shutdowns, capacity limits, social distancing and to some extent, masks. That is why the parks will remain open, concerts and sporting events will be at full capacity, while 1,000, 1,500, 2000+ people are dying each day from Covid.
It will be the new normal. A constant deluge of death amongst the unvaccinated might be the only thing that could change people's minds at this point. Can't say that it necessarily will, nonetheless, their deaths will bring us that much closer to herd immunity.
Just did the San Diego 5k (I am in NO way trained for the half right now). Nice down here with no masks. We made dinner plans down here instead of up in LA.
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