Comcast CEO: "Universal will compete aggressively with Disney"

Voice of Disney sanity

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For me, Disney will always hold a special place in my heart, but last few years I haven't felt the magic at all. Maybe I have finally sniffed enough pixie dust that I am immune. I mean, I went from an avid fan back in 2003 to a DVC member in 2005 to dumping DVC last year. That term "declining by degrees"? I am sorry, but really see no value in return visits when very few real attractions have been added over the years, the standardization of the restaurant menus, to squeezing bus transportation to run "as lean as possible", to decreased park maintenance, to housekeeping decline, the list goes on. Man, I even remember my first stay to AKL, I was blown away by everything, even down to the pool bottom being painted a murky green to give the feel of a real watering hole. Now, it's friggin painted bright blue, no doubt enough of the life-style crowd complained that the pool looked dirty. I will no doubt return to WDW someday, but I don't know when, and quite frankly the mouse will never see my vacation dollars in the amount$ he once did.

For me, Disney is not trying, and it is really starting to show.......Uni on the other hand, I wouldn't be surprised come 2017 when Avatarland is further delayed (which I really want to check out, even though I can never sit through that movie!) people over in the mouse house are going to be wondering why the "fad" up the street continues to draw large numbers, and how is it possible a Uni park surpassed a WDW park in attendance?
^THIS!
 

englanddg

One Little Spark...
I thought WDW was a great value, until I did a Disney Cruise...I was blown away. My room service was top notch (I left him a $250 dollar tip), the treatment on board was amazing, my kid adored it, and we had unique and wonderful experiences.

I can't ever look at WDW the same until they change their mission. Not their model (as they have with MM+), their mission.

There was a time when WDW sought to be the vacation resort for the world.

They don't do that any longer...they scrape along with the base quality they can, and call it "amazing".
 

englanddg

One Little Spark...
For comparison. I checked into my room at POFQ, and I was missing a on the drawer for my kid. I called it into the front desk.

Did it get fixed during my stay? Nope.

Did my 10 days cost 200 bucks? Nope...more like 5k after tickets and Dining plan. Was I upset? Nope, but that shouldn't matter. I shouldn't have to do anything more than say "my drawer is missing a " to the front desk to escalate it getting fixed. In fact, if they were truly top notch in service, I shouldn't even have had to notice it as it wouldn't have happened.

But, frankly, POFQ rooms are run down and poorly maintained with terrible service. Their food court, hell, want a picture of the roach I saw there? And the general filth.

This is NOT Disney. But this is what Disney has become.

And, they are going to erode their brand loyalty, even through people like me, until it is all gone.

And that is sad.
 

LucyK

Well-Known Member
HERE HERE!!!!

Have a butterbeer (or two) and a pumpkin juice on me!!!

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Best 800 calories ever!
 

maxairmike

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Nice post.

But Disney is investing in their parks and building new ones. I have complete faith in Disney that they will take a look at WDW when all their other building is complete. People need to remember all Disney parks combined outdrew all Universal parks by like 100 billion people.

Universal is investing in their parks, great, fantastic, but they still have billions of miles to go to be considered true competition. Its why I have to laugh when people say how they are, the numbers say differently.

Jimmy Thick- Potter phase two? After one year, attendance around 8.2 million, all Disney parks over 10 million, at least...

Attendance is a small time metric. How many times must that be repeated before you get it? If you're going to look at anything related to attendance as a meaningful number, the best you can do is percentage changes. The usefulness of attendance as a meaningful metric is further lessened by the fact that Disney (and Universal, or any park, for that matter these days) won't address real numbers publicly, leaving us with only foggy estimates that likely greatly over inflate numbers and have even been accused of being slightly skewed in favor of Disney. You want to look at numbers, then look at numbers like the sales of Butterbeer being astronomical, the insane jump in revenue that Universal experienced after opening the WWOHP, the swing in F&B revenue in the Studios park after the Simpsons area retheme opened. Or maybe the aggression of building out their room capacity, almost doubling it with the construction of one hotel. Those are much more useful and meaningful statistics than attendance numbers will ever be.
 
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ParentsOf4

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Attendance is a small time metric. How many times must that be repeated before you get it? If you're going to look at anything related to attendance as a meaningful number, the best you can do is percentage changes. The usefulness of attendance as a meaningful metric is further lessened by the fact that Disney won't address real numbers publicly, leaving us with only foggy estimates that likely greatly over inflate numbers and have even been accused of being slightly skewed in favor of Disney. You want to look at numbers, then look at numbers like the sales of Butterbeer being astronomical, the insane jump in revenue that Universal experienced after opening the WWOHP, the swing in F&B revenue in the Studios park after the Simpsons area retheme opened. Or maybe the aggression of building out their room capacity, almost doubling it with the construction of one hotel. Those are much more useful and meaningful statistics than attendance numbers will ever be.
As many have said, McDonald's serves the most people. It doesn't make them the best restaurant.

Four years ago, I'd have had no problem saying WDW was the best theme park in the United States. (TDL is arguably the best in the world.)

But then Cars Land and WWOHP opened.

Then WDW spent a big chunk of change to turn a large area of MK into a kiddie park and spent an even bigger chuck of change to monetize what used to be included in the price of admission.

Things change.
 

bhg469

Well-Known Member
Who cares what a random bawbag with a keyboard says, the world wide reaction to the podcast is more telling.


Laughing at you not with.
Can you specify which podcast and episode. I can't stomach most disney podcasts as I put them in the same category as mommy bloggers. I do want to hear what you're referring to however.
 

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