News Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

Mike S

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Yet somehow totally fine for DL. That's what irks me the most - even if they are going with completely idiotic shortsighted reasons for these changes, at least be consistent. Stop treating MK like a second class citizen and letting DL keep its history. That's total crap.
Playing devils advocate perhaps they’re trying to distinguish Magic Kingdom from Disneyland with this.

I very much don’t like this either. It’s going to look terrible up against Haunted Mansion.
 

larryz

I'm Just A Tourist!
Premium Member
Liberty Square's days are numbered. And this is not the morning for me to get banned from this board for explaining why.
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James Alucobond

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My personal hope is that if they keep any of the river, even if narrowed, they keep it as marked in red here. This way all three entrances to Frontierland/Liberty Square have the water as a buffer directly in the guests' sightline to the "wilderness/forest" area they're going for with Cars. Both Liberty Square and Frontierland are going to need a significant thematic buffer. As a bonus, the Liberty Belle could stay permadocked there.

Sadly, this does not seem to be the plan, but we all know things can and have changed.


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It looks like some portion west of the Liberty Belle dock is at least preserved. Note the cascades coming off Piston Peak and the small section of the boardwalk (which I presume is still passing over water) in the lower left section of the artwork.
 

zann285

Active Member
On a related note: it is WILD how much the Overton window has shifted on what can be changed, cut and reconfigured at the parks.

Things like retheming Splash Mountain and nuking RoA feel like ideas that would never have been seriously considered by the company even 10 years ago. Nothing is safe or sacred anywhere now.
For all the talk of how problematic the West was, all of the other lands in Magic Kingdom set in the past also have similar problems occurring at the heart of them. Sure there may be ways to do stories around that for now, but if one were to honestly use the same sort of appraisal that makes Frontierland problematic, then its hard to see why everything outside of Tomorrowland isn't also problematic.
 

erasure fan1

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I understand nostalgia for RoA. I do. I have it myself. I’ve loved it. But the park isn’t really losing anything critical to it’s existence and identity here.

This was never sacred ground here. I do feel the image of a river and riverboat is indeed a fixture and foundation of Disney iconography, just that that comes from a completely different park.
That's the whole thing for me. It's 100% the imagery and kinetic energy of the riverboat that's important to the Magic Kingdom. So if they can keep the rivers of America and not just permanently dock the boat, I'm good. TSI, while I like the fact that it's there, and looking across to the island. I can't remember the last time we went over. So I agree, it seems more important to Disneyland than world. I know people love it, but if I'm going to have to lose something, TSI would be the least bothersome to me anyway.
 

larryz

I'm Just A Tourist!
Premium Member
I'm gonna be real with ya'll. As a more recent Disney fan and parksgoer. I do not care about ROA at all. Filling it in does not make me think "this is Six Flags now" because thats an insane statement. Six Flags also has rivers with boats in them even! Tom Sawyer Island was kinda cool as a rest area but it was definitely a one and done thing and kinda took you out of whatever you were doing. This adds some nice needed capacity in some prime real estate that was just being taken up by water. I know there are people who care about it and I do understand it's sad but the average parkgoer does not care as much as you probably think they do. A new cars attraction might make someone change their trip to Disney, not a river with a few boats in it.
I'm guessing you're the guy who asked "How can Epcot be a Disney park without any Disney characters in it?" ;)
 

Hakunamatata

Le Meh
Premium Member
Not sure how I feel about this. On one hand I think the dynamic of the riverboat brings a certain energy/motion that adds to the atmosphere. On the other hand new experiences. On either hand Cars in that part of the park is stupid.
 

djkidkaz

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More fun speculation. But what you might get is all the river below the red line filled in. The river above that will stay in some fashion.

The poorly chosen color of purple I used is probably the start of Villains land somehow. You saw some river/water at the bottom of the concept art.

Mickey Views has a real nice layout of how it all should fit. It’s an older post but it does seem to all make sense and match up with what has been discussed.
 

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djkidkaz

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I enjoy the riverboat a good bit, even if it is only something we do every third trip or so. I actually like it more than the train.

RIP

I think most people find the idea of the riverboat redundant when they come across the lagoon to magic kingdom on a big boat from ttc. I get it, it’s a paddle wheel boat but the average person isn’t a boat enthusiast. They are just seeing, oh it’s another big boat, I already rode one of those today.
 

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