News Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

[doctornick]

This will be the breaking point for exactly zero people.

This literally is the first thing they have every done that has really soured me on WDW to the extent that I might not want to go back. I mean, removing Splash was there too but I at least can understand it even though I vehemently disagree.

I mean I complain about some things all the time, but nothing that I have felt has fundamentally worsened the parks on a such a deep philosophical level. I'm even pretty cool with what they've done with Epcot - I think the kvetching about it is typically way overblown and the park needed a better balance for everyone to enjoy it.

What is brazen about this is how unnecessary it is. There's no reason to do it except that they wanted to rip out the RoA and TSI. There's land available instead, but this just takes something away and makes the entire view and vibe and setup just far worse. Frontierland and Liberty Square are supposed to be waterside. It's insane not to at least keep water there (and dock the boat, etc) while using the more northern parts of the island/river for expansion.

 

[ednamodedarling]

Omg. Can you hint or elaborate?

Assumption is Autopia is next on the chopping block. Which ... I am all for lol

 

[doctornick]

I think this shows the only reason TSI and RoA survived at Disneyland is because of Fantasmic.

No, it's because they are deathly afraid of doing anything that lessens "Walt's park" but have no qualms with crapping all over WDW and its fans.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

It’s not over yet either.

 

[Horizons '83]

Assumption is Autopia is next on the chopping block. Which ... I am all for lol

Mentioned this earlier, wouldn't make sense to have a Cars land with an E-Ticket cars attraction and have tomrrowland speedway too.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Mentioned this earlier, wouldn't make sense to have a Cars land with an E-Ticket cars attraction and have tomrrowland speedway too.

Cars isn't about cars, just like Zootopia isn't about animals.

The cars (and animals) are characters, but the stories they're telling are human stories.

 

[Big_Shakalaka]

Assumption is Autopia is next on the chopping block. Which ... I am all for lol

I'd throw a celebration party for this.

 

[Kamikaze]

It’s a concern if half of livery square is gone. For me, anyway. That’s part of the Mansion’s ambiance. It’s part of a New England town on the banks of a river.

Just so we are clear, are you calling the Liberty Belle 'half' of Liberty Square?

 

[ednamodedarling]

But will it be a fantasyland or Tomorrowland expansion on top of Autopia

 

[DCLcruiser]

I really like how the ride seems to be pretty immersive; dirt trails, snowy mountains, waterfalls. Hopefully the amount of tree lining is enough to provide a buffer to Frontierland's wild west area.

 

[doctornick]

Not that it's going to make people feel any better, but this was one of the costlier options pitched, and makes a broad attempt to fit the area better than most others.

Great so it's a terrible idea and more expensive than alternatives. Ugh.

 

[GhostHost1000]

They always involve closing things, because that's the nature of adding new attractions: demand gets shifted elsewhere and the attractions at the bottom suffer a steeper falloff in visitation. It's the reason I keep saying the parks don't need more capacity, just better utilization.

The parks don’t need more capacity?

 

[HauntedPirate]

Who throws these ideas around? Higher ups? TDO? Imagineering themselves? There’s at least one very very bad link in the chain from concept to opening

Marching orders come from Burbank.

 

[Horizons '83]

Cars isn't about cars, just like Zootopia isn't about Animals.

The cars (and animals) are characters, but the stories they're telling are human stories.

eh, you're riding in a car on either attraction. Tomorrowland Speedway needs to die, and this might be the thing to put the final nail in the coffin of one of MK's worst attractions that has somehow survived.

 

[SplashJacket]

The more they say about what this is bringing, the rides, the climbing trails, I like it more than they originally announced

BUT this project immediately goes from something cool to unbelievably ridiculous just by moving it a couple hundred feet.

 

[Brian]

My prediction is that the riverboat landing building will remain and repurposed for shopping or dining, I also predict the river will remain in places on a smaller scale along with additional water features like what they did in Disneyland, just not a complete loop. It looks like cars will be hidden from current FL/LS with trees and theming.

My personal hope is that if they keep any of the river, even if narrowed, they keep it as marked in red here. This way all three entrances to Frontierland/Liberty Square have the water as a buffer directly in the guests' sightline to the "wilderness/forest" area they're going for with Cars. Both Liberty Square and Frontierland are going to need a significant thematic buffer. As a bonus, the Liberty Belle could stay permadocked there.

Sadly, this does not seem to be the plan, but we all know things can and have changed.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

This literally is the first thing they have every done that has really soured me on WDW to the extent that I might not want to go back. I mean, removing Splash was there too but I at least can understand it even though I vehemently disagree.

I mean I complain about some things all the time, but nothing that I have felt has fundamentally worsened the parks on a such a deep philosophical level. I'm even pretty cool with what they've done with Epcot - I think the kvetching about it is typically way overblown and the park needed a better balance for everyone to enjoy it.

What is brazen about this is how unnecessary it is. There's no reason to do it except that they wanted to rip out the RoA and TSI. There's land available instead, but this just takes something away and makes the entire view and vibe and setup just far worse. Frontierland and Liberty Square are supposed to be waterside. It's insane not to at least keep water there (and dock the boat, etc) while using the more northern parts of the island/river for expansion.

My biggest complaint is that I don't think Magic Kingdom should be a priority in the first place, no matter where they put it. It becomes acutely apparent when you're in the app booking Lightning Lanes. "Wow, Magic Kingdom has so much to do, I don't know how we're going to get to everything! Wow, Hollywood Studios has six major headliners... and basically nothing else! Wow, Epcot and Animal Kingdom need more stuff!"

 

[FigmentFan82]

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So yellow is confirmed Cars. I'm assuming Villians will be approximately somewhere in blue? Only that small portion of ROA will remain, any hope they move the Belle up there (even if it is docked)?

So I'm wondering since they're saying Cars goes in TSI/ROA, and if villains is upper right, are they saving upper left for phase III Coco at some point?

 

[CaptainAmerica]

eh, you're riding in a car on either attraction. Tomorrowland Speedway needs to die, and this might be the thing to put the final nail in the coffin of one of MK's worst attractions that has somehow survived.

I guarantee the day they announce a replacement for the Speedway, the exact same complaining we're seeing today will be made about that too.

 

[Mickeynerd17]

I assume the riverboat gets demolished backstage? Its such a beautiful boat, I'd rather it be displayed somewhere.