Captain America 4

GimpYancIent

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"In a recent interview with EW, Marvel Studios president Kevin Feige opened up about welcoming Ford to the MCU — and he revealed that when New World Order begins, Ross has graduated from military general to president of the United States.

"This has been a dream for years, ever since Jon Favreau cast Harrison Ford in Cowboys and Aliens," Feige explained. "I was always very jealous of that, so to have him finally in the MCU is just incredible. It's like, I can cross that off the wishlist."

As Feige noted, there's a certain serendipity to casting Ford as the U.S. president, especially since the actor has tackled that role before. "[Harrison is] tireless with the amount of work that he does," Feige said. "This is certainly a big part for Thaddeus Ross. He's the president of the United States in the film. And with Harrison, you think about Air Force One, and you think about some of his confrontations with the president in Clear and Present Danger."

Ross is a key character in Marvel comics, and Hurt originated the role in the MCU, first starring in 2008's The Incredible Hulk. He later appeared in Captain America: Civil War, Avengers: Infinity War, and Black Widow, before passing away at the age of 71 in 2022.

Per Feige, the relationship between Mackie's Sam and Ford's Ross will play a major role in New World Order. "There's a dynamic between President Ross and Sam Wilson," the Marvel boss explained. "They have a history together, but in this film, we'll be seeing the dynamic between Captain America and the president of the United States in a way that is just incredible.""

President Thaddeus "Thunderbolt" Ross?
 

Jedijax719

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What better way to counter the horrible reviews of Antman3 than to announce Harrison Ford as President!!! (may as well since everyone else in contention is around 80 as well)
 

khlaylav

Active Member
I need Sam Wilson to obtain a katana for the inevitable fight against a high-ranking government official. Perhaps he could have an animal companion. An Edge Canine, if you will.

Yes. Yes I am.
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
I need Sam Wilson to obtain a katana for the inevitable fight against a high-ranking government official. Perhaps he could have an animal companion. An Edge Canine, if you will.

Yes. Yes I am.

Would you settle for an umbrella and carpet bag?
 

Jedijax719

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It may be a tough year and a half for MCU. AntMan is getting completely shelled and obliterated by critics. GOTG3 will be fine, but I fear for The Marvels.

Then there's a whole TEN months before this one. And this will, to many, seem like a 2 hour episode of FATWS. (for better or worse)

Perhaps Thunderbolts can be......something. At the very least it will have David Harbour who may be hyped in the same time for Stranger things finale.
 

DCBaker

Premium Member
Liv Tyler has reportedly joined the cast of Captain America: New World Order, reprising her role of Betty Ross.

"Fifteen years after starring in The Incredible Hulk, Liv Tyler is making her return to Marvel Studios, The Hollywood Reporter has confirmed.

Tyler has joined the cast of Captain America 4, currently titled Captain America: New World Order. She will reprise the role of scientist Betty Ross. Ross is the daughter of General Thaddeus “Thunderbolt” Ross, who was played by the late William Hurt in several films and will now be portrayed by Harrison Ford in the new installment.

Incredible Hulk was released in the summer of 2008 as Marvel Studios’ second feature, after Iron Man launched the MCU. It starred Edward Norton as Bruce Banner/The Hulk, with the actor famously exiting the franchise and being replaced by Mark Ruffalo for The Avengers (2012).

Tyler’s Ross was not seen again, though over the years, actors from that film have appeared in other projects. Hurt’s Ross had a role in Captain America: Civil War (2016), while Tim Roth, who played the villain Abomination, was a key part of the Disney+ series She-Hulk. Tim Blake Nelson, another Incredible Hulk alum, is also returning for New World Order."

Full article below.

 

MarvelCharacterNerd

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Liv Tyler has reportedly joined the cast of Captain America: New World Order, reprising her role of Betty Ross.

"Fifteen years after starring in The Incredible Hulk, Liv Tyler is making her return to Marvel Studios, The Hollywood Reporter has confirmed.

Tyler has joined the cast of Captain America 4, currently titled Captain America: New World Order. She will reprise the role of scientist Betty Ross. Ross is the daughter of General Thaddeus “Thunderbolt” Ross, who was played by the late William Hurt in several films and will now be portrayed by Harrison Ford in the new installment.

Incredible Hulk was released in the summer of 2008 as Marvel Studios’ second feature, after Iron Man launched the MCU. It starred Edward Norton as Bruce Banner/The Hulk, with the actor famously exiting the franchise and being replaced by Mark Ruffalo for The Avengers (2012).

Tyler’s Ross was not seen again, though over the years, actors from that film have appeared in other projects. Hurt’s Ross had a role in Captain America: Civil War (2016), while Tim Roth, who played the villain Abomination, was a key part of the Disney+ series She-Hulk. Tim Blake Nelson, another Incredible Hulk alum, is also returning for New World Order."

Full article below.

😍😍😍

Love her!! SO happy she'll be back!
 

Vegas Disney Fan

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Comic book question… do they do anything to give Sam super hero powers or is he just a soldier but now with Caps shield?

I’ve always been bothered that the Black Widow and Hawkeye are (seemingly) invincible despite being (highly trained) normal humans with no super hero powers and if Sam is just a human without super serum how is he going to survive being Cap?

Falcon and Winter Soldier showed him earn the title but I cant recall seeing him being prepared for the inevitable doom coming his way.
 

doctornick

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Comic book question… do they do anything to give Sam super hero powers or is he just a soldier but now with Caps shield?

I’ve always been bothered that the Black Widow and Hawkeye are (seemingly) invincible despite being (highly trained) normal humans with no super hero powers and if Sam is just a human without super serum how is he going to survive being Cap?

Falcon and Winter Soldier showed him earn the title but I cant recall seeing him being prepared for the inevitable doom coming his way.

He doesn't have any powers.

That said, he now not only has the shield but also a whole Wakanda (presumably Vibranium) suit so that would at least give him some advantage over a "normal" human.
 

Vegas Disney Fan

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He doesn't have any powers.

That said, he now not only has the shield but also a whole Wakanda (presumably Vibranium) suit so that would at least give him some advantage over a "normal" human.
I thought his suit was just a rubber suit with wings, a vibranium suit would definitely up his survivability, did he get that on Fatws? I may have to rewatch the series before the movie comes out, it’s been over a year. I’ve probably forgotten more than I remember.
 
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doctornick

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I thought his suit was just a rubber suit with wings, a vibranium suit would definitely up his survivability, did he get that on Fatws? I may have to rewatch the series before the movie comes out, it’s been over a year. I’ve probably forgotten more than I remember.

Yes, the Captain America-eque suit came from Wakanda. Bucky had called in a "favor" from the Wakanda folks to get it for Sam during FatWS. It's never really established what it is made of but presumably is pretty high tech.

He gave the old/original wings to Joaquín Torres who will presumably use it to become some new version of Falcon.
 

Rambozo

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I guess they felt they had to turn it into a Hulk movie. Because most people don't want to see Falcon as Captain America.

I do think it would have been better with the Hydra Captain America storyline though.

Unfortunately they are using a lot of bad storylines from the past 10 years or so. I don't know why comic sales have been in the dump during that time period. Many people have even switched to Manga, because American comics (D.C. and Marvel) have gotten so bad.
 

Vegas Disney Fan

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Yes, the Captain America-eque suit came from Wakanda. Bucky had called in a "favor" from the Wakanda folks to get it for Sam during FatWS. It's never really established what it is made of but presumably is pretty high tech.

He gave the old/original wings to Joaquín Torres who will presumably use it to become some new version of Falcon.
I watched episode 5 again, where he gets the suit, and it’s indeed from Wakanda, it’s just that one line from Bucky though and then they right go back to working on the boat. Sneeze or look away from the screen for a second and you’d miss it.

Hopefully they expand on the suit a bit in the movie because I think that will really help legitimize the character and make it more believable, just like I’ve never doubted IronMan surviving unsurvivable moments (as a mere mortal) simply because of his suit.
 

doctornick

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I watched episode 5 again, where he gets the suit, and it’s indeed from Wakanda, it’s just that one line from Bucky though and then they right go back to working on the boat. Sneeze or look away from the screen for a second and you’d miss it.

Oh yeah, it's definitely a "blink or you'll miss it" thing. But just figured I'd let you know since you asked.

Wouldn't be a bad idea to have some throwaway dialogue in the movie to explain the new suit came from Wakanda.
 

Phicinfan

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Comic book question… do they do anything to give Sam super hero powers or is he just a soldier but now with Caps shield?

I’ve always been bothered that the Black Widow and Hawkeye are (seemingly) invincible despite being (highly trained) normal humans with no super hero powers and if Sam is just a human without super serum how is he going to survive being Cap?

Falcon and Winter Soldier showed him earn the title but I cant recall seeing him being prepared for the inevitable doom coming his way.
Hawkeye has no powers either, he was unaltered.
 

DCBaker

Premium Member
Seth Rollins has reportedly joined the cast of Captain America: New World Order.

"Filming of the new Captain America movie has been going on at full speed for almost a month now, which means that we’ll get regular updates until it’s time to finally see it on the big screen. Of course, if it was up to Marvel they’d keep it all under wraps, but at this point, it’s virtually impossible to keep all MCU secrets — especially when filming out in the open as they are doing now in Georgia. The first batch of set photos and videos revealed one cast member that hasn’t been officially announced: WWE champion Seth Rollins is on set and in character.

Popularly known as Seth “Freakin” Rollins, the wrestler is one of the most popular fighters in modern WWE. As you probably can imagine, his skills on and off the ring are an asset to a big-budget action movie, in which he can bring a log of technique to fighting scenes. Rollins made his acting debut on a high-profile campy franchise: Sharknado. But Captain America 4 will represent his first major role in a feature film."

Collider is also reporting a title change for the film may be in the works.

"This is not the only piece of news that has been leaking about the future of this Marvel entry. Captain America 4, which was originally titled Captain America: New World Order, is reportedly about to get a title change. It’s not uncommon for movies to change their titles during or even after filming, the difference here is that the new Cap movie had its title revealed way ahead of the premiere, and maybe now Marvel is not feeling it. If the title indeed changes, they’ll probably angle towards something that’s more catchy or shifts the focus of what we can expect the movie to be about."

 

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