Disney Irish
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Yep, completely agree with you.
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Captain America 4
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Disney Irish
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Exactly, it could be scheduling or other delays that could cause that amount of time. It doesn't mean its 6 months straight of reshoots.
I would not be surprised if scheduling was an issue with all the productions trying to restart ASAP all at once now that the actors can get back to work after the strike
Casper Gutman
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Please note: I say the following with absolutely no political judgement.
Cap 4 is also set to feature Sabra, an Israeli superhero, and Marvel may wish to delay the release to avoid controversy or to rework the story to be less relevant to current events.
The original version of Falcon and Winter Soldier similarly suffered badly when its planned storyline became too relevant but it was rushed to release anyway, resulting in a nonsensical final product.
Cap 4 is also set to feature Sabra, an Israeli superhero, and Marvel may wish to delay the release to avoid controversy or to rework the story to be less relevant to current events.
The original version of Falcon and Winter Soldier similarly suffered badly when its planned storyline became too relevant but it was rushed to release anyway, resulting in a nonsensical final product.
Uhh... doesn't reshoots mean they want to the movie to be better?
If they didn't do the reshoots, many of you all would be complaining why they left certain scenes in and didn't take the time and money to reshoot.
If they didn't do the reshoots, many of you all would be complaining why they left certain scenes in and didn't take the time and money to reshoot.
Ghost93
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It IS becoming a problem. I say this as someone who is both an MCU and Disney fan. Part of the reason the Marvel budgets are so inflated is because they rush into production without perfect scripts and then realize they have to fix the thing with massive reshoots. The reshoots usually don't save a severely flawed production, forcing the VFX artists to scramble to complete CGI on the new material. This leads to subpar effects and a bloated budget.
I'm not criticizing Marvel for reshooting Captain America 4 if the film isn't good. I'm criticizing Marvel for rushing into production in the first place so that six months of reshoots were even necessary.
Ghost93
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Yeah that would be smart if what you are saying is true. People on all sides of the Israel/Palestine conflict are very passionate about the matter and it would make zero business sense for Marvel to entangle themselves in such a sensitive issue with a very complicated history.
Disney Irish
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I'm not saying their process can't be improved, even Marvel admits that it can and appears to be changing it so it doesn't happen as much. I'm just saying that it has been the normal "MCU" way to do things, no matter how long the reshoots take place. But moving forward with new productions I would expect less and less of these reshoots to happen.
LSLS
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But flip side is that the original was so bad, and instead of restarting they are trying to pigeonhole a new story into that which was exhisting. Honestly I was a bit surprised that the majority of movies that have huge reshoots are as bad as they are, and I'm not going to judge this one by that at all yet (cause how ridiculous to judge a movie before even a trailer), but I can see slight worry on it.
Tha Realest
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I wonder how much Ford’s charging to sit around a few weeks/months on a reshoot.
_caleb
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Do we know for sure he's actually shooting anything? Maybe they're just going to Indy 5 some version of him into the film?
"With plenty of time until its Feb. 14, 2025 theatrical release, Marvel Studios‘ Captain America: Brave New World has hired Matthew Orton to pen additional scenes and material.
Orton will work on material that will be shot in additional photography, which will take place in spring-summer of 2024, we understand.
Orton previously worked as a consulting producer for Marvel Studios’ Disney+ series Moon Knight."
More at the link below.
deadline.com
Orton will work on material that will be shot in additional photography, which will take place in spring-summer of 2024, we understand.
Orton previously worked as a consulting producer for Marvel Studios’ Disney+ series Moon Knight."
More at the link below.
‘Captain America: Brave New World’ Hires Scribe Matthew Orton; Additional Shooting Planned For Mid 2024
EXCLUSIVE: With plenty of time until its Feb. 14, 2025 theatrical release, Marvel Studios’ Captain America: Brave New World has hired Matthew Orton to pen additional scenes and material. Orto…
deadline.com
MoonRakerSCM
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As I said last month.... chaos.
Filming only started this past March. This would be an ordinary time for reshoots.
The film was planned two years ago and world politics has had significant shifts and events since they wrote the first draft. So, I'm not surprised there are script changes.
The film was planned two years ago and world politics has had significant shifts and events since they wrote the first draft. So, I'm not surprised there are script changes.
MoonRakerSCM
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As MisterPenguin said, it's a strong possibility.
Jedijax719
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I foresee this film being the "Solo" to MCU's Captain America/Star Wars. Sure, we all know and love Sam Wilson, but the vast majority of folks out there only know Steve Rogers as Captain America. For many, this will be a tough pill to swallow.
_caleb
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This movie will show the vast majority who only know Steve Rogers as Captain America that Sam Wilson is the new Captain America.
The reactionaries will ignore the fact that Captain America is a mantle and that Sam assumed the title in TFatWS. They’ll ignore the comic book history and declare the film a race-swapping disaster well before it opens.
erasure fan1
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That's probably a good bet. Will that matter? I'm not sure. Sam is well loved as a character. Will that translate into fans wanting him to be the next Cap? I hope so, but I have my doubts. I actually think the Solo comparison is a good one. People don't dislike Han, but they sure as heck weren't open to someone new playing the part. Steve Rodgers is as iconic of a movie superhero that there's ever been. I can see the general audience being lukewarm on the whole thing. If the movie is great, it can win over the general public. But if it's closer to these last few mcu outings it could be problematic for the film.
_caleb
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Yeah, I actually think it will be better to have Sam become Cap rather than Anthony Mackie taking the role of Steve Rogers. That is, as long as audiences are able to comprehend that this is what’s happening.
Since they’ve only shelved Evans’s Rogers, I expect we’ll see him again. If they really want to set Mackie up for success, they’ll figure out a way to have at least a cameo of Evans in this film.