Captain America 4

Prince-1

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Again, put your "casual moviegoer" hat on. They "retired Cap" but they're making Captain America 4. A casual moviegoer is confused by this.

And I have zero problem with Mackie being the new Cap. I would have been fine with them retiring the name entirely, I would have been fine with Bucky, and I'm fine with Sam. I just think it was a mistake to give it to Sam on Disney+.

The true mistake was making The Falcon and the Winter Soldier. That show was crap.
 

erasure fan1

Well-Known Member
That is a mute point considering that Top Gun Maverick did $1,482,805,552 post pandemic and Spiderman No Way Home did $1,920,544,470.
Exactly. If you make a movie people want to see, people will show up. The pandemic can't be an excuse anymore. What the pandemic has shown me, is that studios can no longer phone it in. And streaming has a lot to do with that as well. If you make a mediocre film people will just wait, it's as simple as that.
 

doctornick

Well-Known Member
Just like you didn't know that Wanda went from hero to trying to kill a teenager in D. Strange 2. Still a stupid plotline.

I think Wanda's change from the movies was a much bigger deal and far more confusing for anyone who hadn't seen the corresponding show than Sam. Heck, Wanda being the bad guy of the film was a leap even if you had seen WandaVision. Sam being Captain America can be easily explained by a line or two spoken in the movie.
 

Phroobar

Well-Known Member
I think Wanda's change from the movies was a much bigger deal and far more confusing for anyone who hadn't seen the corresponding show than Sam. Heck, Wanda being the bad guy of the film was a leap even if you had seen WandaVision. Sam being Captain America can be easily explained by a line or two spoken in the movie.
I agree. Somehow she has every god like ability imaginable and she only uses them once per opponent. If someone can just change someone's physical traits with just a though, (Removing Blackbolt's mouth) she should be completely unstoppable. It is magic used for the coolness of the scene not for the story. There are so many things they could have done with those portals to stop her but didn't. All they had to do was put a portal over Wanda and cut her in half and the other half goes to space. Game over.

It's just bad story telling.
 

Prince-1

Well-Known Member
I think Wanda's change from the movies was a much bigger deal and far more confusing for anyone who hadn't seen the corresponding show than Sam. Heck, Wanda being the bad guy of the film was a leap even if you had seen WandaVision. Sam being Captain America can be easily explained by a line or two spoken in the movie.

Agreed. Even if you saw the show it was stupid. She read a book, turned evil, and wanted to kill some teenager.
 

Phroobar

Well-Known Member
Wrong about what? It helps to be clear when you’re making a statement like that.
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Meh.
 

DCBaker

Premium Member
"Rising star Xosha Roquemore is the latest to join the ensemble of Marvel’s Captain America: New World Order starring Anthony Mackie. Tim Blake Nelson, Harrison Ford, Danny Ramirez, Carl Lumbly and Shira Haas are also on board. Julius Onah will direct the pic with Falcon and the Winter Soldier showrunner Malcolm Spellman writing the script along with Dalan Musson."

"The role would mark one of the biggest jobs to date for Roquemore having most recently appearing in Warner Bros. Space Jam: A New Legacy starring LeBron James. Her other credits include Sherman’s Showcase, Black Monday and Atlanta."

 

DCBaker

Premium Member
"In a recent interview with EW, Marvel Studios president Kevin Feige opened up about welcoming Ford to the MCU — and he revealed that when New World Order begins, Ross has graduated from military general to president of the United States.

"This has been a dream for years, ever since Jon Favreau cast Harrison Ford in Cowboys and Aliens," Feige explained. "I was always very jealous of that, so to have him finally in the MCU is just incredible. It's like, I can cross that off the wishlist."

As Feige noted, there's a certain serendipity to casting Ford as the U.S. president, especially since the actor has tackled that role before. "[Harrison is] tireless with the amount of work that he does," Feige said. "This is certainly a big part for Thaddeus Ross. He's the president of the United States in the film. And with Harrison, you think about Air Force One, and you think about some of his confrontations with the president in Clear and Present Danger."

Ross is a key character in Marvel comics, and Hurt originated the role in the MCU, first starring in 2008's The Incredible Hulk. He later appeared in Captain America: Civil War, Avengers: Infinity War, and Black Widow, before passing away at the age of 71 in 2022.

Per Feige, the relationship between Mackie's Sam and Ford's Ross will play a major role in New World Order. "There's a dynamic between President Ross and Sam Wilson," the Marvel boss explained. "They have a history together, but in this film, we'll be seeing the dynamic between Captain America and the president of the United States in a way that is just incredible.""

 

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