Captain America 4

[Prince-1]

I wonder how the public will react when they show up for a Captain America movie expecting Chris Evans and ends up with Anthony Mackie.

I guess those people will not see any of the many forthcoming trailers that will show Mackie as Cap and not Evans.

Trust me, no one is going expecting to see Evans.

 

[Prince-1]

I heard Chris Evans will be in it, possibly as the bad guy.

It would be pretty cool if they made him the Hydra version, that has been brainwashed.

He won't be in it.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Forget the fact that Chris Evans is be bigger star and better actor than Mackie.

How soon people forget the first Fantastic Four movie...

 

[GimpYancIent]

"The Falcon" assuming the role of "Captain America" is a meh. The Falcon needs to revert to being "The Falcon" and step away from trying to be Captain America. The Captain America character can resurrect without another superhero taking up the mantra.

 

[MisterPenguin]

"The Falcon" assuming the role of "Captain America" is a meh. The Falcon needs to revert to being "The Falcon" and step away from trying to be Captain America. The Captain America character can resurrect without another superhero taking up the mantra.

*mantle.

Falcon becoming Captain America is true to the Marvel comic books. This is a Marvel comic book cinematic universe.

 

[_caleb]

How soon people forget the first Fantastic Four movie...

Johnny Storm is the original Captain America

 

[_caleb]

"The Falcon" assuming the role of "Captain America" is a meh. The Falcon needs to revert to being "The Falcon" and step away from trying to be Captain America. The Captain America character can resurrect without another superhero taking up the mantra.

The Falcon isn't assuming the role of Captain America. Sam Wilson is. He used to be The Falcon, but now he's Captain America. Other people have also been Captain America: In the MCU, there's been Steve Rogers, Isaiah Bradley, and John Walker.

So far, the MCU hasn't done a whole lot of resurrecting dead characters, but because time travel has been established through the quantum realm and because the MCU is a multiverse, there can be several versions of each hero with the same or a different alter ego.

 

[Disney Irish]

If we're going by the comics then Bucky should have gotten it first. But everyone knows why he didn't get it.

If we're being technical both Bucky and Sam taking up the mantle of Capt America is a modern Marvel comics thing, only occurring as early as 2008.

So this idea it should be Bucky over Sam as if it happened a long time ago is just silly.

 

[_caleb]

Killmonger was also Johnny Storm. I guess we can just say they're alternate worlds too.

I think it'd be really funny if they had Chris Evans or Michael B. Jordan play Johnny Storm/Human Torch in the MCU without even acknowledging that he looks just like Steve Rogers/Erik Killmonger.

 

[Jedijax719]

Anyone who doesn't know that Sam Wilson is the new Cap has either been living under a rock or hasn't the tiniest knowledge of the MCU.

Probably both.

 

[Prince-1]

Do you have any proof? Or is that just your opinion?

Educated guess based on the fact that Evans was done with the role which was then given to Mackie. He will not wanted to cone right back to the same movie franchise and possibly upstage Mackie in his first movie as Cap. Ain't never going to happen.

I assume you have some proof for saying that he is going to be in the movie??

 

[Prince-1]

How soon people forget the first Fantastic Four movie...

We should all forget those two movies.

 

[Prince-1]

If we're going by the comics then Bucky should have gotten it first. But everyone knows why he didn't get it.

Why is that?

 

[_caleb]

Why is that?

Please don't ask this

 

[Prince-1]

Please don't ask this

Sorry but gotta ask. I mean, it couldn't be for the reason that popped in my mind when I read that comment?? Could it???

 

[Phroobar]

How do you measure success v the other movies ?

By world wide grosses:

Captain America: The first Avenger made $370,569,744
Captain America: The Winter Solider made $714,421,503
Captain America: Civil War made $1,153,337,496

Success to Hollywood means Captain America: New World Order needs to make somewhere in these numbers and three times it budget to break even. Hopefully it can do as well as Winter Solider considering it's budget.

 

[MisterPenguin]

I wonder how the public will react when they show up for a Captain America movie expecting Chris Evans and ends up with Anthony Mackie.

Old Cap gave Sam the shield in the second highest worldwide grossing movie ever.

So who expects Steve Rogers to be Captain America in CA4?

 

[Phroobar]

Old Cap gave Sam the shield in the second highest worldwide grossing movie ever.

So who expects Steve Rogers to be Captain America in CA4?

Already discussed. Keep up Penguin. I don't care how short your legs are.

 

[_caleb]

By world wide grosses:

Captain America: The first Avenger made $370,569,744
Captain America: The Winter Solider made $714,421,503
Captain America: Civil War made $1,153,337,496

Success to Hollywood means Captain America: New World Order needs to make somewhere in these numbers and three times it budget to break even. Hopefully it can do as well as Winter Solider considering it's budget.

So you're saying that unless Cap 4 does at least as well as the two previous movies (CA:TWS and CA:CW) it will be a failure?

Both were helped immensely by what was happening with the rest of the MCU (CW was basically an Avengers movie), with momentum the franchise doesn't seem to have now at the tail end of phase 4.

 

[erasure fan1]

Oh. I hope it's good, too.

Do you not think race could be a factor in some fans' reluctance to accept Mackie in the role?

I don't think race will matter at all. Overall people loved Mackie as Falcon. The reluctance, if it happens, would most likely come from recasting Cap so soon. If you look at the most iconic castings in comic book movie history. Evans Cap is right at the top along with Downey, and Jackman as wolverine. This isn't passing the torch on a second tier hero. I love Paul Rudd as antman. But I wouldn't really care if someone takes the mantle after him. I personally think this transition would have worked better with a bit more time between.