Buena Vista Street (2012)

nemofinder22

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The Disney Parks Blog released a time lapse of the progress so far on the Carthay Circle
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Carthay Circle floor plans have been leaked...
http://micechat.com/forums/disneyland-resort/159221-carthay-theatre-1st-2nd-floor-plans.html

It matches perfectly with what Al mentioned a little bit ago.
http://miceage.micechat.com/allutz/al081611a.htm
As we’ve told you previously, the ground floor of the Carthay Circle Theater has been designed with two separate cocktail lounges, and the original plan was for one lounge to be the private bar paired with the members-only dining room upstairs. But now TDA has been considering creating a DCA version of Club 33 in stages and opening the Carthay Circle Theater with only one of the cocktail lounges as a private club and then turning the dining room into a membership restaurant at a later date if demand at the private lounge warrants it.

The private cocktail lounge would be marketed to Premium Annual Passholders willing to upgrade their pass to the Carthay Circle Club. The second lounge on the ground floor would be open to the public, serving a full appetizer menu and cocktails. This phased approach to the membership concept makes many folks in TDA more comfortable in this rocky economy, although there’s still a faction convinced the member-only idea is still the way to go for the upstairs dining room as well. Regardless of which concept wins out, they’ll need to announce it soon to get an interest list forming.
 

TP2000

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^^^ Ooh! Those blueprints are neat! The upstairs restaurant in particular looks to be quite large and very fancy. I wonder if that elevator is an open-cage style like Club 33? It would fit the 1920's time period. Maybe they could make it so the passengers would have to tap dance to make it work, like in Thoroughly Modern Millie? :lol:

And the blueprints do seem to show exactly what Al Lutz had mentioned was TDA's dual-role club concept for Carthay Circle Theater. Amazing how Lutz nails that stuff.
 

TP2000

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Forgive me if this has already been discussed, but...

The ice cream parlor on Buena Vista Street is cleverly being called Clarabelle's. And during the D23 Expo discussion the Imagineers even mentioned that perhaps Walt finding such an ice cream parlor in LA in the 1920's influenced his decision to call his cartoon cow Clarabelle.


Clarabelle's Ice Cream interior #D23Expo #fb by insidethemagic, on Flickr

But then, what happens to Clarabelle's ice cream stand across the plaza in Disneyland's Mickey's Toontown? Does Clarabelle get the boot from Toontown, or does she get to be in both parks at once in sort of an alternate universe thing where she is inspired by an ice cream parlor in 1925 Los Angeles and then after her creation she gets to actually own an ice cream stand in downtown Toontown?

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nemofinder22

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Hmm I think Clarabelle will probably keep her place in ToonTown, speaking of Clarabelle looks like some concept art of her new place on Buena Vista Street.
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http://mintcrocodile.smugmug.com/photos/i-3J8W5jW/0/O/i-3J8W5jW-O.jpg

Blue Sky Cellar reopened with a new update featuring Buena Vista Street. It has a great look at the facades, the interiors, the tile, costumes and the Red Car Trolley

Pictures can be found at all these sites.
http://www.disneygeek.com/updates/disneyland_update.php?page_id=49&update_dir=2011_09_23
http://mintcrocodile.blogspot.com/2011/09/blue-sky-cellar-buena-vista-street.html
http://datelinedisneyland.smugmug.c...1/09-24-11/19196460_DxxN39#1496605768_wK6KZ9N
http://ocattractions.net/disneylandlive/2011/09/disneyland-resort-photo-news-report-9-25-11/

Whats left of Sunshine Plaza is really nothing, this is looking to the entry plaza, on the left are the restrooms/lockers, the right is Guest Relations and Greetings from California.
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http://datelinedisneyland.smugmug.com/DisneylandResort/2011/09-24-11/i-Ww2m8nQ/0/X3/IMG7926-X3.jpg

Left is Greetings from California(whats left of it..) also notice the footers on the right this is where the building will be extended out a bit further towards the Carthay.
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http://datelinedisneyland.smugmug.com/DisneylandResort/2011/09-24-11/i-qcMLkrQ/0/X3/IMG7722-X3.jpg
Above photos by Dateline Disneyland

Some palm trees have been added near the pump house.
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http://mintcrocodile.smugmug.com/photos/i-WQ5t5nj/0/O/i-WQ5t5nj-O.jpg

A few speaker poles have been added as well, also near the pump house.
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http://mintcrocodile.smugmug.com/photos/i-Rn2qFh2/0/O/i-Rn2qFh2-O.jpg

Above photos by Mintcrocodile
http://mintcrocodile.blogspot.com/2011/09/never-know-what-day-may-bring.html

Also a full look at all the facades that will line Buena Vista Street.
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http://mintcrocodile.smugmug.com/photos/i-VTCZVHd/0/O/i-VTCZVHd-O.jpg

http://mintcrocodile.blogspot.com/2011/09/blue-sky-cellar-buena-vista-street.html
 

sponono88

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Original Poster
The new video that's playing inside the Blue Sky Cellar:

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And a couple of photos from Dateline Disneyland

The new posters:

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Buena Vista St. elevation study:

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A trolley stop:

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New CM costumes:

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Carthay Circle costume:

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The Carthay Circle Theatre design will be true to the original structure

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Interior design materials and a partial model of the Fiddler, Fifer, and Practical Cafe:

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Interior concept art:

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hpyhnt 1000

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Forget Carsland; I'm much more interested in seeing what Buena Vista Street is going to look like when all the work is completed. This is Disney design and Imagineering at its best right here and I think it will surpass Carsland in many aspects. Dare I say, I think DCA regulars will have a much greater appreciation for this new area of the park then they will for Carsland.
 

sweetpee_1993

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Forget Carsland; I'm much more interested in seeing what Buena Vista Street is going to look like when all the work is completed. This is Disney design and Imagineering at its best right here and I think it will surpass Carsland in many aspects. Dare I say, I think DCA regulars will have a much greater appreciation for this new area of the park then they will for Carsland.


I agree! I've never even been to DL. We have been planning to go in the fall of 2012. I'm so stoked to be able to see something that will blow me away completely the way it should. I'm itching to see it all sooooooo bad..... :sohappy:
 

sponono88

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Original Poster
Al Lutz posted an article today, and he gives a bit of an update on BVS:

Before the construction walls can come down at DCA, there’s also a half dozen new entertainment offerings that need to be cast, scripted and rehearsed for locations throughout DCA’s new areas. Jazz combos on Buena Vista Street, spare car parts bands in Cars Land, and Roaring 20’s dance crazes erupting from the passing Red Car Trolley are just a few of the atmosphere entertainment concepts to be added to DCA by next summer.

[...]

While there’s plenty of work to do this winter back in TDA to get ready for DCA’s big relaunch, it’s the dirty work happening behind the construction walls that is causing some nail biting now. They’ve wasted no time in ripping DCA’s entire entry complex down to the steel girders and rocky Anaheim soil. The Buena Vista Street project is no mere reskin of existing facilities, but is rather a full rework where only a few existing pieces of underground infrastructure get reused and the rest is built from scratch. The construction timetable for all this is still very fluid, and the opening date once pegged for late June is now the best case scenario.

http://miceage.micechat.com/allutz/al092711a.htm
 

TP2000

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Al Lutz posted an article today, and he gives a bit of an update on BVS:



http://miceage.micechat.com/allutz/al092711a.htm

Yeah, just read through the latest from Al Lutz.

Uh.... "Summer 2012" has replaced "June 2012" around TDA now it sounds like. I don't care if it's late, just so long as it all looks as nifty as the artwork does. But I wonder about those folks who may be planning June or early July visits because they think DCA will be done by then? :eek:
 

KingdomofDreams

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Yeaahh... starting to get a knot in my stomach over this one. You can't rush genius and this project they need to get exactly right. Wouldn't want anything less, but the latest we can probably make our trip out is July. Looks like it may be questionable right up until the last minute.
 

Cosmic Commando

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Yeah, just read through the latest from Al Lutz.

Uh.... "Summer 2012" has replaced "June 2012" around TDA now it sounds like. I don't care if it's late, just so long as it all looks as nifty as the artwork does. But I wonder about those folks who may be planning June or early July visits because they think DCA will be done by then? :eek:


They should pray for a dry winter. :)
 

TP2000

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They should pray for a dry winter. :)

I'm sure there's already a conference room in TDA that has been coverted to a prayer chapel over this one. :D

I was just reading an article in the LA Times about La Nina. It's developing again, after receding a bit over summer, and the pattern is setting up much like last winter. Usually a La Nina (abnormal cooling of equatorial Pacific ocean waters) brings dry winters to SoCal, but last year we had a modest La Nina that tapped into an active jet stream over the Gulf of Alaska and we got pounded with a lot of rain that went over the average for the entire West Coast. That whole system is setting up again for this winter, but TDA could hope that it morphs into a more classic La Nina and gives us a very dry winter in SoCal.

I've lived all over this great country, but I'm a SoCal Native and enjoy being back here. That said, it's absolutely hilarious and more than a little embarassing to see how the locals react to a third of an inch, or maybe a half inch, of rain. You get a passing shower and puddles forming in the gutter, and the citizenry cowers in fear and the local TV stations go on Stormwatch 2011! :rolleyes:
 

hpyhnt 1000

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I've lived all over this great country, but I'm a SoCal Native and enjoy being back here. That said, it's absolutely hilarious and more than a little embarassing to see how the locals react to a third of an inch, or maybe a half inch, of rain. You get a passing shower and puddles forming in the gutter, and the citizenry cowers in fear and the local TV stations go on Stormwatch 2011! :rolleyes:

I will never understand that about you SoCal natives. I remember we were staying near LAX on an overnight layover and it was a light rain outside. We turn on the news in the hotel room and there's wall to wall coverage of the monumental .15 inches of rain that had fallen during the day. At first we though it must be a mistake, but it was .15, not 15. Being from South Florida where we can get 2-3 inches of rain in about an hour in the summer, we shudder to think what happens if/when there's an actual thunderstorm. :eek::lol:
 

sponono88

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Original Poster
A look at the current state of BVS construction (9/30)

Basically all of Sunshine Plaza has been demo'ed. Only the bare steel structure of the buildings remain:

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It really shows the extent of the remodel!

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The future home of the Elias and Co. department store:

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Looking towards the main entrance:

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The view from outside the park gates:

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source: MintCrocodile
 

TP2000

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Wow. There's almost nothing left; just structural steel beams and rocky dirt. :eek:

When this Buena Vista Street concept was firming up a few years ago and they released some artwork, I had assumed they would mainly just touch the park-facing exteriors, but that the interior floorplans and basic infrastructure of ceilings/walls/floors and such would remain. I really had no idea it would be this comprehensive, and rip everything out except for a few steel skeletons.

No wonder TDA is no longer using a "June, 2012" reference anywhere!
 

nemofinder22

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Lots of updating needs to happen here.

So since the last update,
-The pump house has a sign, "Carthay Circle" along with an awning reading "information"
-Parade lighting and street lights have been installed
-Steel for the east block of stores has pushed the foot print closer to the Carthay mainly taking over dinning areas and the old train.

Parade lights as well as the expanded steel(black) the old steel is red.
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http://mintcrocodile.smugmug.com/photos/i-xK4fGdf/0/O/i-xK4fGdf-O.jpg http://mintcrocodile.smugmug.com/photos/i-3MDgSCq/0/O/i-3MDgSCq-O.jpg

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From Condor Flats you can see it expands out a bit.
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http://mintcrocodile.smugmug.com/photos/i-zXZxB3w/0/O/i-zXZxB3w-O.jpg

The former Greetings! From California facade, the Candy shop facade will be reused in Buena Vista Street.
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http://mintcrocodile.smugmug.com/photos/i-DcjVPGZ/0/O/i-DcjVPGZ-O.jpg

Part of the fountain in the middle of the Carthay Circle.
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http://mintcrocodile.smugmug.com/photos/i-KFXDnX3/0/O/i-KFXDnX3-O.jpg

Carthay Circle looks like all the ornamental features have been placed.
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http://mintcrocodile.smugmug.com/photos/i-x627zn4/0/O/i-x627zn4-O.jpg

From the Monorail, the expansion can be seen in a few posts above and now the steel in place.
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http://mintcrocodile.smugmug.com/photos/i-MqBm85t/0/O/i-MqBm85t-O.jpg
http://mintcrocodile.smugmug.com/photos/i-ffvP59M/0/O/i-ffvP59M-O.jpg

Work is also starting to pick up on the area south of the old restrooms.
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http://mintcrocodile.smugmug.com/photos/i-x8NVhXD/0/O/i-x8NVhXD-O.jpg

All photos by Mintcrocodile.
http://mintcrocodile.blogspot.com/2011/10/look-at-all-that-metal.html
 

TP2000

Well-Known Member
Another great update from Miceage's Dateline Disneyland today, and I thought I'd share a few interesting shots from Buena Vista Street construction. The beach fog has been rolling in thick and heavy in Anaheim all week, so these morning shots have fog all over them! :D

Just inside the entry gates, new scaffolding has gone up as the framing of the new buildings on the west side of the entry courtyard has begun. This photo is also interesting due to the turnstile entry hostess who is standing in the foreground. Al Lutz has said that brand new Main Entrance uniforms are coming to these CM's in early November. Those blue trousers with the tan/red shirts and jackets have been in use since around 2000, when the Disneyland Resort was getting ready to open DCA in early '01.

It's time those dated 12 year old turnstile uniforms went to Yesterland.
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This new framing has pushed the walls north a bit, narrowing the temporary entry alley into DCA by about 10 feet.

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On the opposite side of the entry, they have entirely gutted the old Guest Relations/Greetings building complex entirely down to the steel frame and the sandy soil beneath. It's really amazing to me how this project has entirely stripped the original buildings down to the skeleton. Very impressive, but will they make it by next June?!? :lookaroun

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More pictures and information at this week's Dateline Disneyland. http://micechat.com/blogs/dateline-...n-street-menus-building-buena-vista-more.html
 

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