networkpro
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The culture has changed to appeasement, not what can we dream of next.
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The culture has changed to appeasement, not what can we dream of next.
Sirwalterraleigh
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Yeah…it started about 20 years ago…
Which means someone has hit his expiration.
That is the way of the force
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
First time, huh?
I’m glad you’re enjoying it
Disneyland is great…I might sneak out there this year again.
But your comparison is framed by the fact that Florida is now “under built”
It passed that point 10-15 years ago due to bad management.
Iger CAUSED It. Does he know? Yeah…he sent the emails ensuring it would happen.
That’s why Disneyland seems awesome. It looked awful in the 90’s…but they made some corrections. Good for them.
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Tha Realest
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It has most of the best of MK and DHS (ROTR, MFSR, and MMRR), but better versions (Space and Pirates), plus stuff like Matterhorn, Mr. Toads, and Indiana Jones. And it still has Splash (presently). New Orleans Square is the best solo land after Cars Land, which is across the promenade where you also get Soarin’, Radiator Springs Racers, GOTG: MB, and a better version of Kali River Rapids.
MrPromey
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Yeah, that's why I called total BS on their "passholder problem" where they made it out like passholders were impacting the enjoyment of the parks by regular guests on the west coast.
How did a park with way more attraction capacity which also saw significantly less overall attendance have a passholder problem when our MK was mobbed and had less capacity? (not to mention those other three parks with even less on offer and high annual attendance)
Simple answer was, it had nothing to do with the guest experience.
They just weren't happy with the margins - just like over here, it was about the "favorable" mix and nothing else.
Operationally, they'd rather have lower attendance there weeding out some of those pesky passholders and pay less to run the place than have it fuller, despite not having anything close to the guest-facing capacity problems they're comfortable with over here.
But yes, seeing what they do in a property they actually seem to care about is an eye-opening experience when you're used to going to their "main" resort, isn't it?
Hope you guys have a great time!
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Ayla
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The number of AP's at DLR is in no way comparable to WDW. They aren't even in the same ballpark. WDW AP numbers pale in comparison to DLR.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Those blow
Mostly agree with you otherwise…
One severely underrated difference is big thunder in Anaheim is way better. It’s a crime they didn’t add effects to the wdw version. But when people pay $99 for cupcakes…why do anything for them?
astroblasters is also much superior
MrPromey
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No, I get that but when attraction capacity is higher and attendance is lower it's difficult to buy the line that changes over there were about the guest experience.
Unless they're saying they care about it on the west coast but not so much over here?
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
They have always cared more about bad PR in Anaheim more than orlando.
It’s close to HQ and they like to use it as a showpiece and don’t want any bad stink getting around to their friends in SoCal…
And east coasters are stupid when it comes to travel - frankly. I could give you a list a mile long as evidence but it will get redundant.
But APs In Disneyland are a completely different animal than wdw. The last thing the money machine should block out in Orlando is APs. Especially if you don’t want trouble in a slowdown. Batten the hatches
MrPromey
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I understand and agree and yes, it makes sense that when you have that high a percentage that are more savvy about optimizing, it can impact things but APs are also more likely to go for atmosphere and for weekday evenings and such, too. Given how easy it is to get in and out over there compared to here, I'd imagine the evening atmosphere people are a higher percentage of those passholders.
Was just saying that it was strictly about the money machine.
Which should come as a shock to nobody but when they started restricting things over there, they tried to spin it as something else.
Why they've restricted it to the extent they have over here is kind of a puzzle to me at this point.
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Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
It’s a lame-o slow ride with terrible IP…that doesn’t work half the time.Rise is legitimately one of the greatest rides ever made. I’m sorry you’re opinion is just bad.
I’ll just let all the “PR pumping” of it die down and we’ll revisit down the road. Y’all have been “well trained” here.
Sorcerer Mickey
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Gotta disagree with you regarding DCA. We went last month, but not to Disneyland. Our Disneyland day was rainy and one-day tickets were $159 a pop. No dice.
DCA - Avengers Campus was a bust. The whole land is a big industrial warehouse park. Very ugly overall and the Spidey ride is a Toy Story Mania ripoff with a sleepy Tom Holland pre-show. Cars Land is beautiful but you pay $20 for Genie+ and then Radiator Races is an extra $15 on top of that. Genie+ does not cover all the flat rides like it does in Orlando. Also, the characters keep moving and we wasted so much time waiting in line before they had to "go on missions" or "attend meetings". Try explaining that to a five-year-old.
The Spider animatronic didn't work. Incredicoaster broke down, so I was given an extra Genie+ reservation - but it doesn't work on Mission: Breakout, for whatever reason.
Just a mess overall, IMO.
KeithVH
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So, while everyone complains about rides, I have a serious question. What's the general state of technology-oriented roles right now, especially in Orlando with them getting rid of people? I'm talking DevOps, Project Management, etc. Lots of openings on LinkedIn. I'm not talking entry level stuff but senior-level roles (20+ yrs experience). Stay away considering the current conditions? Or go for it?
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Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Senior level will probably get you about $55,000 and a pretty name tag
DonniePeverley
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Rise is legitimately one of the greatest rides ever made. I’m sorry you’re opinion is just bad.
Greatest ride ever made maybe pushing it. It's a very good attraction ... perhaps lacking a tiny little bit of thrill to the proceedings that makes it lose a few points.
KeithVH
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Seriously? I know they don't pay the greatest but, that bad?Senior level will probably get you about $55,000 and a pretty name tag
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
…I was joking
Sort of…
They do not pay well…at all. But I have no idea what that looks like in todays terms?
LSLS
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Honestly I don't think coming back in was the original plan when he did his farewell tour. I do think he wanted chapek to look bad to make people rewrite his legacy. I think the chance to white knight just kind of fell into his lap and he used his minions to make it happen.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
I think that probably was his plan…
The Covid quit was cowardly though and I think in the circles of power and money he knows no one bought it and that’s why he politicked his way back.
Probably never intended on leaving chapek and would have forced him out.
An attractions ride mechanic makes $30 per hour or $62K per year so there is that.