News Bob Iger outlines the need to transform the Walt Disney Company resulting in 7000 job losses and $5.5 billion in cost savings

Fido Chuckwagon

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So, while everyone complains about rides, I have a serious question. What's the general state of technology-oriented roles right now, especially in Orlando with them getting rid of people? I'm talking DevOps, Project Management, etc. Lots of openings on LinkedIn. I'm not talking entry level stuff but senior-level roles (20+ yrs experience). Stay away considering the current conditions? Or go for it?
Disney pays horrifically for their IT staff. My brother is an app engineer who works for a big tech company, working the equivalent role in Disney would result in making approximately one third of what he makes right now, no exaggeration. He explored the possibility about a year ago.
 

BrianLo

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It’s a lame-o slow ride with terrible IP…that doesn’t work half the time.

I’ll just let all the “PR pumping” of it die down and we’ll revisit down the road. Y’all have been “well trained” here.

You are letting your Star Wars fandom cloud your judgement again.

Have at Falcon all you want, but Rise is not a bad attraction. It doesn't have to be even remotely your favourite, hate the sequels by all means. Over-rated? Also by all means maybe. But calling it a bad attraction is frankly not being critical, it's driven sheerly by anti-sequel trilogy bias. ;)
 

Smiley/OCD

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Crazy thing too is it was WAY cheaper than the same amount of days for Disneyland for us as WDW flying out of Atlanta.

Spirit was around $140 round trip. The walking distance to both parks, Sheraton 4 Points Anaheim, was less than that per night.

I just can’t shower enough praise! It feels less “corporate” than Orlando.
We hope to go next year for our youngest daughter’s graduation from Cal-Poly Humboldt…I’ve never been to DLR…it’s sounds awesome…(going on 30 years since I rode Mr. Toad!)
 

Smiley/OCD

Well-Known Member
Honestly I don't think coming back in was the original plan when he did his farewell tour. I do think he wanted chapek to look bad to make people rewrite his legacy. I think the chance to white knight just kind of fell into his lap and he used his minions to make it happen.
The old saying, “You’re only as good as your last performance”…not that Chappie needed any help cementing his legacy with the mouse (I guess it’s safe to say he won’t ever get a window on Main Street), but it’s clear Iger is doing everything he can to make Chappie look horrendous while saying the right things and tossing us small bones (free parking) to make himself look awesome…psychologists call that savior complex…as long as he can sleep at night…
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
You are letting your Star Wars fandom cloud your judgement again.

Have at Falcon all you want, but Rise is not a bad attraction. It doesn't have to be even remotely your favourite, hate the sequels by all means. Over-rated? Also by all means maybe. But calling it a bad attraction is frankly not being critical, it's driven sheerly by anti-sequel trilogy bias. ;)
Well it is a Star Wars ride - alledgedly - and Disney insists that you have to be IP based…

…so am I not rating it based on their parameters?

Trackless are just their new take on dark rides…they don’t really do anything with the technology…because they’re made dull/direct to try and move crowds they can’t handle.

It’s just “meh”…and $500 mil and a 2 hour wait makes that an awful ride.

Now I like guardians…I even like rat.

Is it an embarrassment they punt repeatedly on delivering a good Star Wars ride? Yes…
But it’s not a “fandom” thing as much as you make it out to be
 

BrianLo

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Well it is a Star Wars ride - alledgedly - and Disney insists that you have to be IP based…

…so am I not rating it based on their parameters?

Trackless are just their new take on dark rides…they don’t really do anything with the technology…because they’re made dull/direct to try and move crowds they can’t handle.

It’s just “meh”…and $500 mil and a 2 hour wait makes that an awful ride.

Now I like guardians…I even like rat.

Is it an embarrassment they punt repeatedly on delivering a good Star Wars ride? Yes…
But it’s not a “fandom” thing as much as you make it out to be

I'll accept meh! Just "bad" implies it needs to be torn down or gutted and replaced, Fast and Furious-esque. Face swapping some animatronics for the OG trio notwithstanding. Fortunately in Disneyland (a well built park) it doesn't command a 2 hour wait.

Falcon on the other hand needs new ride profiles and maybe a Mando tie-in to make it relevant.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
I'll accept meh! Just "bad" implies it needs to be torn down or gutted and replaced, Fast and Furious-esque. Face swapping some animatronics for the OG trio notwithstanding. Fortunately in Disneyland (a well built park) it doesn't command a 2 hour wait.

Falcon on the other hand needs new ride profiles and maybe a Mando tie-in to make it relevant.
I think a thoughtful retheme makes that, falcon and some of the support lands a real destination - like potter - and not just crowd filler because of lack of capacity - which it currently is…

I do have to agree with @BrianLo. I’m not a sequel lover either, I despised Episode 9 and was lukewarm to 8.

I do think making it the OG trilogy would’ve made it better.

However, theme parks should not be judged based primarily on an IP used, it should be the execution.

I think TRON: Legacy sucks, but the world building, musical score, etc. are great components for a ride, and TRON Lightcycle Run is a solid (albeit too short) ride. Same goes with the original Avatar (loved the second) and I adore Pandora at Animal Kingdom.

I also think Galaxy’s Edge is really cool BUT for the amount of money spent, it should’ve been better than Cars Land and Diagon Alley and for me it isn’t other than its scale.

However, Rise of the Resistence itself is absolutely an E-ticket, and just the sheer amount of effects and cleverness make it indisputably so. You don’t have to love it, but you do seem to be exaggerating lol.

Also, at Disneyland, it’s been hovering between 45 and 75 minutes which is far more reasonable than at the overcrowded Hollywood Studios.

And for context, I’d consider Rise as the second best ride in the world for me after Shanghai’s Pirates (which I did back in 2018). If we exclude the incredible pre-shows, It’s more like a top 5 ride for me.

You don’t have to agree with that, but I’m not exactly your average theme park goer. I’ve been to every Disney park plus Universal Orlando and Hollywood, so I have a lot to compare it against.
We mostly agree…see above.

But even without an ip that reeks like last weeks tuna and pays homage to awful, unwatchable movies…

The ride just is dull.

The at at room is just statues…the gun ports are cool - if they work…the preshow is neat, but the 300 lb “soldiers” really don’t work…and the 12 second sim (if that) doesn’t really raise the cockles at all…and the ren is so clunky. It’s more witch than shaman

So they say it’s the best ride ever. That’s the hook. If you’ve trekked the world looking for parks…it’s your realm. Though I’ve been to some of the same spots, I tend to try to be a little more middle of the road.

I still think flight of passage is the best ride currently to get you to a place. Other than some “classics” - of course.

I think rise is a case of “less than the sum of its parts”…like test track
 

KeithVH

Well-Known Member
See, I always had the impression they promoted from within as much as possible. Which I think is a very good thing. But I look online and there are a lot of senior roles advertised. Stuff you need people with both breadth and depth. 1At least 10+ years worth. Not something you'd put somebody in place just 2-3 years out of school. So who ends up in those jobs?

I did a lot of interviewing/hiring at my last job. So when I look at the requirements and quals lists, I have a fair idea of what the industry is paying. For example, Microsoft used to pay around the 66th percentile (think it's a little better lately). While FAANG definitely paid more than MS. Which makes me wonder - if Disney professional roles are poorly paid, does that mean people are taking a pay loss and devaluing their skills or is Disney actually getting just what they pay for?
 

DopeyRunner

Active Member
See, I always had the impression they promoted from within as much as possible. Which I think is a very good thing. But I look online and there are a lot of senior roles advertised. Stuff you need people with both breadth and depth. 1At least 10+ years worth. Not something you'd put somebody in place just 2-3 years out of school. So who ends up in those jobs?

I did a lot of interviewing/hiring at my last job. So when I look at the requirements and quals lists, I have a fair idea of what the industry is paying. For example, Microsoft used to pay around the 66th percentile (think it's a little better lately). While FAANG definitely paid more than MS. Which makes me wonder - if Disney professional roles are poorly paid, does that mean people are taking a pay loss and devaluing their skills or is Disney actually getting just what they pay for?
I mean MDE App has questionable performance and stability. I’ve heard from people have worked in some capacity on it that it’s just a bad architecture that was/is cobbled together (not sure how true that is). That can be a symptom of “get what you pay for” as well as outsourcing part or all of the work.

I do see a high number of postings, more than you’d expect from a company expecting multiple layoff events, but it could also be an attempt to bring in fresh ideas. Maybe even pick up some of the MAANG devs that were recently laid off?
 

KeithVH

Well-Known Member
Well, someone had pointed out to check the salaries posted for CA. A Data Integration Manager goes for $130-180K. Maybe a smidge low (especially for Glendale area) for that skill but at least in the ballpark. Which makes me wonder whether Orlando tends to pay less for equivalent work or what. And then you start thinking, if everyone is paid so low for whatever skills are there, how hard would it be to be a rockstar in such an environment?
 

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