freedining
Member
Well, at least the name calling stopped, but boy, us west coast people are boring. Talking about business stuff. Almost as boring as the Walking Dead finale.
-
Welcome to the WDWMAGIC.COM Forums!
Please take a look around, and feel free to sign up and join the community.
News Bob Iger is back! Chapek is out!!
- Thread starter Disney4family
- Start date
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Don’t think cook has the shell to play that game…
Though I think Apple is Disneys most likely future merger partner.
I think this was all Iger. It looked like chapek “won” in 2021…and he wouldn’t take it.
Casper Gutman
Well-Known Member
Streaming is here to stay, but the model will be reconsidered. And part of that reconsideration will be that cinemas are here to stay, too.
Agreed - Disney would make great AppleTV content... A sad state of affrairs but... (and, I believe, Iger explored that at one point with Steve Jobs!)
Disney Analyst
Well-Known Member
It’s just nice to see so much activity here at this hour! Heeeey west coasters! Nice to be among neighbours.
At one point I would've thought that Streaming would replace movies... but now I think it's only going to replace TV.. if THAT. (and by that I mean we'll own our own digital libraries of movies and stream our own, owned, content as prices increase then go to the movies along with 1 or 2 streaming services... ala cable)
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Hell…streaming is morphing into cable
They’re rebundling and want to sell ads…which won’t fly.
Steaming is definitely here to stay…but it won’t yield the profits the one Robert Iger has promised. That’s the kicker
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
We don’t sleep on the east coast, baby
TwilightZone
Well-Known Member
How are things on the west coast...
Hey gotta have some somewhat relevant party songs at this hour right?
Elijah Abrams
Well-Known Member
- In the Parks
- Yes
That’s why he needs to sell 20th Century Fox (Studios) because Disney is in a debt crisis right now!
It was the intention of Marvel TV to connect Netflix Marvel to the MCU. The tv division of Marvel certainly tried to make it happen and would continually update their world to match the MCU.
But since movies and tv were separated departments, neither could definitively say they definitely were or were not part of the MCU. Attempts to do crossovers generally failed (with the exception of appearances of Fury and Sif) with the excuse that movies and tv were on different production schedules.
With the cancellation of Netlix Marvel shows and the consolidation of all things Marvel under Feige (except for Sony Marvel Spider-Man and friends), then it was up to Feige to say if Netflix Marvel was in the MCU or not. And he remained silent on that for a long time.
Until.. the multiverse was introduce into the MCU. And then, Feige can have it both ways: The Netflix Marvel is a separate universe from the main MCU making it canon multiversally, but not canon to the main MCU.
It's been now establish that the Daredevil and Kingpin of the MCU (in Hawkeye, No Way Home, and She-Hulk) are not of the same universe as their Netflix Marvel counterparts.
Casper Gutman
Well-Known Member
The MCU has nothing to do with production practices, its a canonical storyworld (and I'm not sure you're correct that Marvel was completely uninvolved with the production of those shows). The Netflix shows took place in the same fictional universal as the Avengers (and multiversal variants are still part of the MCU, because all of the multiverse is part of the MCU!)
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
They can’t sell it…they’d take a hit/write down and that’s the last thing investors want
Vegas Disney Fan
Well-Known Member
$800+ million would make them the 19-23rd largest shareholder of Disney stock. It may only be half a percent but it’s nothing to laugh at.
the FCC is well on its way to 'spinning down' broadcast TV. But unless you've got new content on streaming I think more and more people are going to own their own personal collection of digital movies that can be played on demand (hough not through a streaming service). I'm not sure how it's going to break down at the moment but it seems to be a difference of 'live' content (like you find on youtube/twitch) vs anything scripted or recordings of live content - and most people only want to purchase the copies of the scripted content.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Especially since most shares are held by investment funds…who don’t have a “consciousness” as judges would like you to believe
Selling the content you need to maintain a streaming monopoly is a fireable offence in this day and age...
MrPromey
Well-Known Member
Robinson's was a troubled production.
The Pixar acquisition happened near the end of it and Lasseter stepped in with his new company role to try helping punch it up but I think they knew that one was a bit of a lost cause.
Watching objectively, you can see how all over the place it really was.*
Two things I remember most vividly about my theater viewing of that one was the new Walt Disney Pictures intro and the way they kept hitting us over the head with the Walt line "... keep moving forward".
That last part, especially how it was used in the movie, felt like a message to the audience not to judge the future on the movie they had just seen, by that point, made by a different organization from the past.
*I'll admit I liked the Tom Selleck meta joke, though.
_
Last edited:
Disney Analyst
Well-Known Member
We don’t sleep on the east coast, baby
How could anyone sleep with that awesome Elton concert on Disney+??
It was a really good live event, I was impressed.
Casper Gutman
Well-Known Member
The (really confusing) problem is that Disney isn't using that content. The Fox catalog should be on Hulu - it isn't. Honestly, if you could peel off the Marvel rights and perhaps one or two other IPs - maybe Planet of the Apes - and sell the rest of Fox, it might make sense. IPs like Alien, Die Hard, and Predator would have a lot more value for non-Disney studios.
That isn't going to happen, though.