News Bob Iger is back! Chapek is out!!

[lazyboy97o]

That ship sailed a long time ago under Eisner, possibly even earlier. Its why Disney came up with the Touchstone and Hollywood Pictures monikers for films that were marketed for teenagers and adults.

Touchstone Pictures was started by Ron Miller. Hollywood Pictures was created as a legal entity during Miller’s tenure but was not used for several years after Eisner arrived.

 

[Touchdown]

I'd say that Marvel, while not exclusively for kids, is still very much a PG brand--and viewers want it to stay a PG brand. Look at the trouble they're having adapting Blade--great premise, huge hit back in the day, had a lot of sequels, but there has to be blood and a black guy "from the hood," as they would say back when the original Blade came out. Feige's vision is very limited in some ways.

Hopefully Hulu becomes the equivalent of Touchstone but they need to step up to Netflix content-wise.

Deadpool 3 is coming, which will be anything but PG.

 

[SilentWindODoom]

Let me help those who are confused about Titanic understand

 

[TalkingHead]

That ship sailed a long time ago under Eisner, possibly even earlier. Its why Disney came up with the Touchstone and Hollywood Pictures monikers for films that were marketed for teenagers and adults.

Also seems that TWDC’s ownership of Miramax in the 90s-00s has been largely overlooked. That was a major feather in the company’s cap.

 

[uncle jimmy]

Lucasfilm Kathleen Kennedy not if but when.

This might be an unpopular opinion, I think she's safe. She's been around far too long, I'd like to think she was protecting the brand from Chap's and his media content director's lack of creative mind and hands in every decision.

 

[donaldtoo]

I can’t agree with this based on the way almost all of his public appearances went.

Yea, there are many public figures that I vehemently disagree with on many issues, but, many also seem like they’d at least be interesting enough to sit down with to have a chat over a coupla’ beers.
Chapek ain’t one of ‘em.

 

[Heppenheimer]

Also seems that TWDC’s ownership of Miramax in the 90s-00s has been largely overlooked. That was a major feather in the company’s cap.

Ah, yes, I forgot about Miramax too. Technically, that made Pulp Fiction a Disney film at the time (I have no idea who would own the rights today, since Disney sold off Miramax).

That could have resulted in some very interesting IP insertions in the parks, if Disney wanted to go a bit edgy.

 

["El Gran Magnifico"]

Ah, yes, I forgot about Miramax too. Technically, that made Pulp Fiction a Disney film at the time (I have no idea who would own the rights today, since Disney sold off Miramax).

That could have resulted in some very interesting IP insertions in the parks, if Disney wanted to go a bit edgy.

I’m still waiting for Planet of the Apes land in AK. So many possibilities with that.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Ah, yes, I forgot about Miramax too. Technically, that made Pulp Fiction a Disney film at the time (I have no idea who would own the rights today, since Disney sold off Miramax).

That could have resulted in some very interesting IP insertions in the parks, if Disney wanted to go a bit edgy.

Miramax is currently a joint venture between Qatar (through state-owned beIN Media Group) and Paramount.

 

[marni1971]

This might be an unpopular opinion, I think she's safe. She's been around far too long, I'd like to think she was protecting the brand from Chap's and his media content director's lack of creative mind and hands in every decision.

She’s not everyone’s friend.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Lucasfilm Kathleen Kennedy not if but when.

Oh please, yes.

It’s possible…it just really depends on how much blood letting the street desires?

LFL Is currently lagging/untapped potential in the portfolio

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

This might be an unpopular opinion, I think she's safe. She's been around far too long, I'd like to think she was protecting the brand from Chap's and his media content director's lack of creative mind and hands in every decision.

Um…no

Her first five years of LFL lead to massive LOSSES on Disneys ledger. You read that right.

I think if anything she’s an Iger ally…which means she could be 100% safe or 100% a sacrificial lamb depending on how things are going now

 

[uncle jimmy]

She’s not everyone’s friend.

Well sh*t, she's lasted a long time. I knew fans weren't pleased with things under her direction, but wasn't aware she didn't have many friends.

Um…no

Her first five years of LFL lead to massive LOSSES on Disneys ledger. You read that right.

I think if anything she’s an Iger ally…which means she could be 100% safe or 100% a sacrificial lamb depending on how this are going now

Her being an Iger ally is also why I thought she might be safe... but if the brand is losing $$$ that Iger thinks isn't being tapped under her leadership direction, her ship may soon be off to Galaxy's Edge.

 

[DCLcruiser]

Given the arbitrary nature of PG-13 (3 f-bombs get you an R, but gun violence without blood does not), I have always been against disallowing R-rated films under the crux of 'family entertainment.” It also disproportionately impacts arthouse/indie films. Let’s not forget the MPAA, now known as the MPA, doubles as a lobby for large studios.

Child locks on profiles are a way better strategy as there are definitely R or TV-MA rated movies and shows that are more suitable for younger audiences than it would seem (ex. Breakfast Club/The Crown), and frankly, I don’t know any under 17 year old that’s never seen an R-rated film. That’s especially true for one that hasn’t played an M-rated video game. Like most things, it’s a win-win to allow and regulate, in this case with parental controls, rather than a blanket ban.

The issue isn't them trying to appeal to all audiences such as having R/TV-MA content; the issue is them thinking throwing money at content will translate to popularity. It's an exceptionally ineffective strategy cost-wise. Allowing creative people to choose what content to produce is better self-selection rather than a bean counting corporate mandate. That’s why Bob Iger will immediately be a better leader since he’s already restructuring based on that.

If the show isn’t WDW approved, it should be on Hulu. D+ is a major safe zone for content. It’s the vault plus.

Again, I have just about every streamer so I’m not against other types of shows. R, MA, all good. Just keep D+ Disney.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Well sh*t, she's lasted a long time. I knew fans weren't pleased with things under her direction, but wasn't aware she didn't have many friends.

Her being an Iger ally is also why I thought she might be safe... but if the brand is losing $$$ that Iger thinks isn't being tapped under her leadership direction, her ship may soon be off to Galaxy's Edge.

I don’t think she did anything NOT at iger’s direction…which means she could go if he feels the “narrative” needs to change

 

[uncle jimmy]

She’s not everyone’s friend.

So after her, who's next? Also, I was so wrong

Rumor: Lucasfilm Head Kathleen Kennedy Could Be Fired Very Soon — World of Reel

With Bob Iger returning as Disney CEO, there are rumors swirling that Lucasfilm head Kathleen Kennedy might be on the chopping block.

www.worldofreel.com

 

[erasure fan1]

Lucasfilm Kathleen Kennedy not if but when.

Oh please, yes.

I think she needs to go as well. There was a time around the release of last jedi where I thought they should move her to a position that wasn't attached to the creative side of things. She's a legendary producer for sure. But I doubt she had any real power on the creative side of things with all those Spielberg productions. Unfortunately Iger let her allow herself and lucas film to wage a war against the fans. Creating an extremely toxic relationship with the fans. So at this point, she just needs to move on. No matter the position in Disney that she could move to, there will always be big pushback with the fans.

 

[Sir_Cliff]

I think she needs to go as well. There was a time around the release of last jedi where I thought they should move her to a position that wasn't attached to the creative side of things. She's a legendary producer for sure. But I doubt she had any real power on the creative side of things with all those Spielberg productions. Unfortunately Iger let her allow herself and lucas film to wage a war against the fans. Creating an extremely toxic relationship with the fans. So at this point, she just needs to move on. No matter the position in Disney that she could move to, there will always be big pushback with the fans.

I don't know, I think the fans have made it hard for them to get rid of her.

 

[Rich Brownn]

That ship sailed a long time ago under Eisner, possibly even earlier. Its why Disney came up with the Touchstone and Hollywood Pictures monikers for films that were marketed for teenagers and adults.

Actually those weren't created just because of ratings. Disney did an experiment with "Never Cry Wolf" - one doing DISNEY PRESENTS on top, one with FROM DISNEY in small print at the bottom. The results indicated people associated Disney with animated and very lame live action films. The solution was to create a label for live action (and yes, that could include racier fare) that people wouldn't associate with a kiddie flick (Notice the ads for 'The Black Hole' the Disney name isn't very prominent at all). Plus at least one Disney ilm was originally released as Touchstone: "The Nightmare Before Christmas". Many Touchstone films were rated PG or PG-13 -- it was just felt the themes either were too dark for Disney or it could be mistaken as kiddie fare and ignored by adults.

 

[erasure fan1]

I don't know, I think the fans have made it hard for them to get rid of her.

That I don't get. The fans really don't like her. Unless you think Disney won't do it because it would be scene as caving to the fans? But isn't that what Disney is known for? They love to make decisions based on the Twitter crowd.

It would be very easy to get rid of her and make it seem like it wasn't them getting rid of her and she can ride into the sunset. As long as she's there, everything Lucasfilm releases will have an uphill battle from a PR standpoint.