News Bob Iger is back! Chapek is out!!

[kingdead]

Is he in federal custody? That’s a serious crime

Bob Chapek isn't going to jail for doing some creative accounting. If everyone who did that went to jail, Hollywood would be one big prison.

 

[tanc]

if Iger brings back magical express the planets would have aligned. Really kinda doubt it will ever happen but one can only hope.

 

[Tha Realest]

Who ya got next in the pool?

I think it’s a biggie (around here at least)

I don’t know about him. He came up during Iger’s time too. P&R are profitable and not the problem right now (at least on the balance sheets). Everyone given the heave ho (so far) were decidedly fully Bob C. people.

I think Bouza’s more likely. She is a 100% Bob C person.

 

["El Gran Magnifico"]

Who ya got next in the pool?

I think it’s a biggie (around here at least)

Is there a way they can fire Chapek again?

 

[tanc]

Any possibility that Chapek is banned from the parks?

 

["El Gran Magnifico"]

Any possibility that Chapek is banned from the parks?

That would work

 

[uncle jimmy]

Who ya got next in the pool?

I think it’s a biggie (around here at least)

I'm going with Horacio Gutierrez

 

[Tha Realest]

I'm going with Horacio Gutierrez

Ooh good pick.

Another possibility is Kristina Schake, she came on during Bob C’s time and PR has been disastrous. But, her background is simpatico with Iger so that may save her

 

[castlecake2.0]

The cast members know nothing. I had some detailed conversations during the pandemic to feel them out

First, they seem to not grasp the P&R head is beholden 100% to the ceo…in this case that was chapek. It’s their largest revenue source. They’re not “half in”

Second, they see a guy posting selfies on Instagram and Facebook with the serfs and think that matters at all…which it never will.

The deal is/was they hated chapek and needed a saviour so they picked tight pants. It there’s no divergence. Never was

I wish more cast understood this

 

[Br0ckford]

if Iger brings back magical express the planets would have aligned. Really kinda doubt it will ever happen but one can only hope.

Need more then that. I can find my own way to Disney World.

 

[Sir_Cliff]

That's one of the problems Iger has to deal with... he bought up a lot of properties and now has to flog then under an inherently socially conservative brand. I'm not saying that people who like Disney are conservative in all areas of life, but when they want Disney product they want a certain image. For some audiences that may mean no hints of anything controversial to a genuinely socially conservative mind (no homosexuality, no interracial relationships) but in general it means no sex, no violence. You know, the stuff that people love to watch on every other streamer?

I felt bad for Chapek when people got on his case for saying that adults want to watch grown up shows after the kids went to bed. Every other streamer is expected to have content for kids and adults. Chapek had this huge money pit of a streaming service that needed more subscribers and he was stuck with kids to "all ages" franchise stuff or he risked the brand. Iger is more smooth but he has the same fundamental problem.

My impression is that one of the things that happened under Iger's tenure is that Disney stopped being associated exclusively with G and PG-rated family fare. It basically just became the biggest film studio which was just as much Avengers Endgame or Guardians of the Galaxy as it was Frozen or Encanto. At least outside of the US, I don't think anyone really bats an eyelid at Disney+ and Star being bundled in together, with one having primarily wholesome family entertainment and the other stuff like Pam and Tommy or It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia. My suspicion is once they manage something similar with Hulu, most people will understand it's a big studio that makes different content for different audiences and it will be a selling point for the streamer rather than a turnoff.

Sure, at the further end of the socially conservative spectrum they may loose some of their audience. I suspect, though, they've lost a lot of that already and the extra subscribes they gain will far outweigh those they loose.

 

[Lilofan]

Bob Chapek isn't going to jail for doing some creative accounting. If everyone who did that went to jail, Hollywood would be one big prison.

Who hasn’t done creative accounting ? It is using your brain to move the numbers around.

 

[Lilofan]

Who ya got next in the pool?

I think it’s a biggie (around here at least)

Lucasfilm Kathleen Kennedy not if but when.

 

[Br0ckford]

Lucasfilm Kathleen Kennedy not if but when.

Oh please, yes.

 

["El Gran Magnifico"]

My impression is that one of the things that happened under Iger's tenure is that Disney stopped being associated exclusively with G and PG-rated family fare. It basically just became the biggest film studio which was just as much Avengers Endgame or Guardians of the Galaxy as it was Frozen or Encanto. At least outside of the US, I don't think anyone really bats an eyelid at Disney+ and Star being bundled in together, with one having primarily wholesome family entertainment and the other stuff like Pam and Tommy or It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia. My suspicion is once they manage something similar with Hulu, most people will understand it's a big studio that makes different content for different audiences and it will be a selling point for the streamer rather than a turnoff.

Sure, at the further end of the socially conservative spectrum they may loose some of their audience. I suspect, though, they've lost a lot of that already and the extra subscribes they gain will far outweigh those they loose.

Disney had the opportunity to acquire Netflix a decade ago. And while it’s easy to armchair quarterback at this stage and point the recent performance of both companies - things may have turned out very different. I say “may have” because they (Disney) would have still needed the vision and foresight to know what to do with it.

But Netflix would have afforded Disney with the platform and certain “know how” on how to launch it. It would have given them a tremendous head start - forcing everyone to play catch up.

Disney would have reaped the rewards (and revenue) - and who knows - with that revenue maybe a few large/strategic acquisitions. Had that happened we might be looking at a completely different company.

But there’s an equal chance if Disney had pulled the trigger on Netflix - that they would’ve run it into the ground and we’d be at the same place we are now.

 

[Sir_Cliff]

He had to throw in his usual “say it without saying it” useless political and social commentary. I blame @MisterPenguin for calling him out. Nothing to see here. Carry on.

I still have fond memories of that 24-hour period when we found out who he was and there were some barbs exchanged between different personalities on here! Peak WDWmagic!

 

["El Gran Magnifico"]

I still have fond memories of that 24-hour period when we found out who he was and there were some barbs exchanged between different personalities on here! Peak WDWmagic!

I still want to learn the secret handshake.

 

["El Gran Magnifico"]

Who hasn’t done creative accounting ? It is using your brain to move the numbers around.

Being "the smartest guys in the room" doesn't always work so well. Ask ENRON.

 

[Heppenheimer]

My impression is that one of the things that happened under Iger's tenure is that Disney stopped being associated exclusively with G and PG-rated family fare. It basically just became the biggest film studio which was just as much Avengers Endgame or Guardians of the Galaxy as it was Frozen or Encanto. At least outside of the US, I don't think anyone really bats an eyelid at Disney+ and Star being bundled in together, with one having primarily wholesome family entertainment and the other stuff like Pam and Tommy or It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia. My suspicion is once they manage something similar with Hulu, most people will understand it's a big studio that makes different content for different audiences and it will be a selling point for the streamer rather than a turnoff.

Sure, at the further end of the socially conservative spectrum they may loose some of their audience. I suspect, though, they've lost a lot of that already and the extra subscribes they gain will far outweigh those they loose.

That ship sailed a long time ago under Eisner, possibly even earlier. Its why Disney came up with the Touchstone and Hollywood Pictures monikers for films that were marketed for teenagers and adults.

 

[kingdead]

My impression is that one of the things that happened under Iger's tenure is that Disney stopped being associated exclusively with G and PG-rated family fare. It basically just became the biggest film studio which was just as much Avengers Endgame or Guardians of the Galaxy as it was Frozen or Encanto. At least outside of the US, I don't think anyone really bats an eyelid at Disney+ and Star being bundled in together, with one having primarily wholesome family entertainment and the other stuff like Pam and Tommy or It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia. My suspicion is once they manage something similar with Hulu, most people will understand it's a big studio that makes different content for different audiences and it will be a selling point for the streamer rather than a turnoff.

Sure, at the further end of the socially conservative spectrum they may loose some of their audience. I suspect, though, they've lost a lot of that already and the extra subscribes they gain will far outweigh those they loose.

I'd say that Marvel, while not exclusively for kids, is still very much a PG brand--and viewers want it to stay a PG brand. Look at the trouble they're having adapting Blade--great premise, huge hit back in the day, had a lot of sequels, but there has to be blood and a black guy "from the hood," as they would say back when the original Blade came out. Feige's vision is very limited in some ways.

Hopefully Hulu becomes the equivalent of Touchstone but they need to step up to Netflix content-wise.