Prince-1
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DVDs lol. Is the soundtrack coming out on cassette?
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Black Panther: Wakanda Forever
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DVDs lol. Is the soundtrack coming out on cassette?
_caleb
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Apple did a lot of research on this through iTunes sales/rentals. They concluded that people prefer to purchase shows/series, but "rent" movies. But then they went all-in on subscriptions for everything.
Yes. My post was an attempt to tease those who think otherwise. Since Iger started talking about DtC, Disney has made it clear that they're all-in on streaming and have deliberately de-emphasized theatrical releases for all but the biggest films. They know what they're doing, even if theater chains and cinephiles don't like it.
Black Panther made a ton of money for Disney in theaters, and now it's going to make a ton of money for Disney through subscriptions.
Disney Irish
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Which is exactly my point, PVOD is something that Disney needs to lean into more for theatrical releases. They sort of do with Amazon and iTunes digital purchase/rental. But they should bring back the Premier Access to D+ and offer new releases for rental for 3 months after the theatrical release is over. So you get like 70-90 days of theatrical and 90 days of Premier Access on D+. So by the 5th or 6th month point when it goes to regular D+ access its hopefully had gotten a nice return.
_caleb
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I'm sure they're looking at it.
Disney doesn't want to have to share revenue with Apple/Amazon, when they've got D+, and I think they've made it clear they want to be less dependent upon cinemas. If streaming--even after a long theatrical window--removes some of the incentive to see a film in theaters, I would imagine it has a similar effect on mid-run services like Premier/PVOD.
And Disney must not have been too pleased with the initial performance of Premier Access, or I think we'd be seeing it used a lot more.
Disney Irish
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I'm sure they are looking at it as well. And I agree Disney wants to share as little money as possible with outside entities. This is why a longer term strategy to include a PVOD feature like Premier Access only makes sense for D+ long term. Premier Access was a test balloon to see if consumers would accept it, and it appears they did.
They were pleased enough to use it 5 times. And even indicated they would use it again in the future. So yeah I say they were pleased with it overall.
I am guessing the release date is scheduled for D+ as being a couple of weeks before the next Marvel theatrical film… I am going to guess we are going to see this happening with each new film for the time being… although I think they need to figure out how to lengthen the pay window… as I think this strategy will cut into their profitability
Prince-1
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Once again, Disney knows exactly what it’s doing. If they are putting the movies onto D+ sooner it’s for a very specific reason.
I disagree… I don’t think they know exactly what they are doing… but I am sure Disney will figure it out… I am sure they are testing things out …collecting data… it’s no secret one of the reasons they brought Iger back is to figure how to make Disney plus Profitable
Most streamers are not profitable yet… everyone is spending Money on content to attract subscribers but are not reaping the benefits yet, except maybe Netflix…I am hearing they are finally in the black after years in debt… and they are the top streamer. Which is why it was premature for people to claim it was the death of theaters… Studios still needs the profit from theaters
Jedijax719
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It's part of the bigger cultural impact of Black Panther/Wakanda in general. Each movie doesn't have to have its own cultural impact (although with the introduction of Talocan, you can say that the culture impact has stretched into South America).
Star Wars, Harry Potter, and LOTR had obvious cultural impacts. That doesn't mean that each movie ignited a new cultural impact (although TFA kinda did).
Phroobar
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So Black Panther is just riding the coat tails of older and better movies. They tried to give it cultural impact with the constant "Boseman died. See this movie in his memory!" The MCU cultural impact has really been diminished since End Game. Just like the Eternals, Wakanda added nothing to the Marvel cultural impact. It added nothing technically and the toy market was a bust.
Phroobar
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So what else is new? I'm surprised they didn't give a posthumous one to Chadwick Boseman.
Jedijax719
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Dude, what is your problem? That's just blatantly racist.
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Phroobar
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I've seen her is much better things and know she is much better actress then the script allowed her to be. I'm a big fan of her. She was much better in "What's love got to do with it", "The Rosa Parks Story" and "Akeelah and the Bee". I see it as more hype for a not so great superhero movie than for Angela.
Did you see Wakanda Forever… it was totally deserving… I am rooting for her to sweep all the awards
And now she's been nominated for the Screen Actors Guild award, one of the bellwethers of the Oscars. I would certainly suggest that the win and the further nomination would be "cultural impact," but I imagine you'll have a ready-made and whiny excuse as to why it's not.
LSLS
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I'm in the boat of MAYBE watching it when it hits Disney+, but how can you make your second statement in context of your first? Did you actually go and see it despite saying you weren't interested and that you wouldn't? Or are you basing the performance on the 30 seconds you saw her in the trailer? I have no idea if she is deserving for this movie. Honestly, based on her history, I'd guess "Yeah, she probably is," but, I think the critics are so far removed from caring if a movie is actually good and entertaining at this point, I won't blindly follow what they say either.
Prince-1
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Of course he hasn't. He is one of the group of regulars who waste our time posting garbage about things they have never seen. It's funny and pathetic at the same time.