News 'Beyond Big Thunder Mountain' Blue Sky concept revealed for Magic Kingdom

[castlecake2.0]

I thought this was a conservation purchase to offset the development of other "conservation" labeled pieces of land elsewhere on property?

Definitely possible, and would make sense that it was purchased by The Celebration Company and not WDPR. Looking at Google earth it is further away from MK than I originally thought.

 

[Captain Barbossa]

Do yall know what the impact on the WDWRR will be?

My question too. We just put up with multiple years of it being closed for Tron.

Everything that I’ve heard and seen up to this point since blue sky was announced was either no closure or brief closure, but I’m very much taking those two with a grain of salt.

 

[ChrisFL]

It would be very bad for park navigation for them to leave RoA as-is. BTMR is already an inconvenient dead-end. Adding a huge expansion past that without connecting it to Fantasyland or Liberty Square would be a navigational nightmare. And adding a long trek past HM to the new expansion, with nothing to do on the way, wouldn’t be ideal either.

They could do a lot of stuff if they were to....as much as I hate to say it....shorten the path of the riverboat and add bridges across to Tom Sawyer's Island past where the path of the riverboat would go

 

[rd805]

I just hope that any villains land includes a Nightmare Before Christmas dark ride.

It probably wouldn't, but it'd be an instant favorite of mine!

 

[Ichabod Crane]

It probably wouldn't, but it'd be an instant favorite of mine!

idk I honestly think it has a decently strong chance. Oogie is often used with the other villains nowadays and the ride would fit the land perfectly. Plus it’s also something that would easily attract families into the area.

 

[GhostHost1000]

It probably wouldn't, but it'd be an instant favorite of mine!

Tim Burton as a consultant for Dark Kingdom expansion would be interesting lol

 

[ToTBellHop]

Everything that I’ve heard and seen up to this point since blue sky was announced was either no closure or brief closure, but I’m very much taking those two with a grain of salt.

The only things that would necessitate closure would be a RoA re-route or an eastern connection from the expansion to the rest of the park. There really should be a connection to the expansion in addition to the path by Splash that could easily go in.

 

[dmc493]

All the respect to people who love nightmare before Christmas and oogie boogie and such. But I am a haunted mansion holiday hater and having anything nightmare in an expansion would be a huge bummer for me

 

[Tha Realest]

In terms of villains land, go big concept. Have a version of a Fantasyland with some subtextual traces of malevolence, but not outwardly scary. Come dusk, a lightning package kicks in (a la Radiator Springs) slightly transforms the land into something more sinister.

The night parties and/or desert packages for the transformation pays for itself.

 

[Starship824]

The only things that would necessitate closure would be a RoA re-route or an eastern connection from the expansion to the rest of the park. There really should be a connection to the expansion in addition to the path by Splash that could easily go in.

You think they would add a railroad station in this area to make transportation easier since the walk up there would be pretty long. Also with Disneyland doing the star wars music during the fireworks now, I hope they do something similar with the potential villains land.

 

[OSUPhantom]

In terms of villains land, go big concept. Have a version of a Fantasyland with some subtextual traces of malevolence, but not outwardly scary. Come dusk, a lightning package kicks in (a la Radiator Springs) slightly transforms the land into something more sinister.

The night parties and/or desert packages for the transformation pays for itself.

Playfully spooky is an easy thing to accomplish thematically. Any fears of it being too scary are ridiculous in my opinion.

 

[Horizonsfan]

If they ever did put a resort in that plot, it would be interesting to see if they try to connect it to MK directly with its own entrance.

A secondary entrance seems almost mandatory at this point to handled the increased park capacity. That and/or upgrading the MS bypass into a constant onstage area with stronger theming.

Main Street, as is, can’t handle much more. Even Disneyland has a secondary access with the monorail station.

The big question in my mind is how they’d direct more than one or two resort’s worth of guests to a secondary entrance. There’s a lot of different ways to attack it, but each has their own drawbacks.

 

[doctornick]

It would be very bad for park navigation for them to leave RoA as-is. BTMR is already an inconvenient dead-end. Adding a huge expansion past that without connecting it to Fantasyland or Liberty Square would be a navigational nightmare. And adding a long trek past HM to the new expansion, with nothing to do on the way, wouldn’t be ideal either.

They don't have to do anything to the river/railroad/TSI to make that work. They can build a guest path north from behind BTMRR from the Splash bathrooms and RR station. There is a path there that could be extended north, over the canal and to the open space outside the RR berm.

 

[DisneyDodo]

They don't have to do anything to the river/railroad/TSI to make that work. They can build a guest path north from behind BTMRR from the Splash bathrooms and RR station. There is a path there that could be extended north, over the canal and to the open space outside the RR berm.

Sorry, I’m not following. Are you suggesting to make a loop that essentially goes around BTMR?

 

[ChrisFL]

a visual

 

[ToTBellHop]

They don't have to do anything to the river/railroad/TSI to make that work. They can build a guest path north from behind BTMRR from the Splash bathrooms and RR station. There is a path there that could be extended north, over the canal and to the open space outside the RR berm.

Yes that is the main entrance. They need a second, I’d think. If the expansion wraps around RoA like SWGE in DL, they’ll need at least 1 eastern connection to the park. SWGE in DL has 2.

 

[doctornick]

Sorry, I’m not following. Are you suggesting to make a loop that essentially goes around BTMR?

Excuse my poor photoshop skills

 

[Andrew25]

MK definitely needs to "buildout" Main Street in order for the bypass to be open all-day. Hoping this is a smaller project that gets approved.

 

[yensidtlaw1969]

Excuse my poor photoshop skills

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This is my general understanding - whether the River will be shortened or not still isn't clear to me, but this is the basic thrust of it.

 

[Brer Panther]

I still don't think a Villains' Land is such a good idea. I'd much rather have, say, an Aladdin dark ride than an exclusively Jafar dark ride, or a Hercules ride over an exclusively Hades ride.