News 'Beyond Big Thunder Mountain' Blue Sky concept revealed for Magic Kingdom

[ChrisFL]

Okay I can say now that I've been doing geotechnical work out there for a few months for preliminary borings. Y'all are in for a lot.

As opposed to the main borings we'll get later on at D23

 

[pigglewiggle]

I just hope that any villains land includes a Nightmare Before Christmas dark ride.

With your user name I feel you'd agree with me and want a Headless Horseman attraction.

Have no idea how they would do that, but a Sleepy Hollow dark ride would be phenomenal.

 

[ToTBellHop]

Do yall know what the impact on the WDWRR will be?

I imagine it will need to close at some point but it will hopefully be a relatively quick closure. It’ll take longer if they make RoA smaller. How long did DL’s close?

 

[doctornick]

I imagine it will need to close at some point but it will hopefully be a relatively quick closure. It’ll take longer if they make RoA smaller. How long did DL’s close?

Not that I expect it, but if they closed the MK RR again, I would really hope they would add a diorama or two along the path. There's so much space/opportunity for that.

 

[EricsBiscuit]

I imagine it will need to close at some point but it will hopefully be a relatively quick closure. It’ll take longer if they make RoA smaller. How long did DL’s close?

A couple years unfortunately, IIRC. Hopefully they keep RoA the same size. It would be awful to lose the WDWRR for a while. If they keep the expansion on the outside of the tracks then hopefully they won’t need to do much. They will need to build a drawbridge across the canal connecting RoA to SSL.

 

[castlecake2.0]

Hotel north of Grand Floridian and very large area land north of that and west of Splash is my current expectation. Potential to move further north with additional resorts and to complete the loop later.

Makes me think of this previous land purchase and what they’re long term plan is in this area

https://www.wdwinfo.com/news-stories/disney-purchases-26-3-acres-of-land-near-magic-kingdom/#:~:text=According%20to%20Orange%20County%20public,is%20listed%20as%20Celebration%20Co.

 

[DisneyDodo]

It would be very bad for park navigation for them to leave RoA as-is. BTMR is already an inconvenient dead-end. Adding a huge expansion past that without connecting it to Fantasyland or Liberty Square would be a navigational nightmare. And adding a long trek past HM to the new expansion, with nothing to do on the way, wouldn’t be ideal either.

 

[Rosso11]

With your user name I feel you'd agree with me and want a Headless Horseman attraction.

Have no idea how they would do that, but a Sleepy Hollow dark ride would be phenomenal.

The original plans of the MK had one included. I wish they would bring it back but I unfortunately just don’t see it.

 

[JohnD]

Do yall know what the impact on the WDWRR will be?

My question too. We just put up with multiple years of it being closed for Tron.

 

[Ichabod Crane]

With your user name I feel you'd agree with me and want a Headless Horseman attraction.

Have no idea how they would do that, but a Sleepy Hollow dark ride would be phenomenal.

I’d love it. Especially if they ever considered dropped the villains moniker for just a general spooky type land.

 

[Splashin' Ryan]

Makes me think of this previous land purchase and what they’re long term plan is in this area

https://www.wdwinfo.com/news-stories/disney-purchases-26-3-acres-of-land-near-magic-kingdom/#:~:text=According%20to%20Orange%20County%20public,is%20listed%20as%20Celebration%20Co.

I thought this was a conservation purchase to offset the development of other "conservation" labeled pieces of land elsewhere on property?

 

[castlecake2.0]

I thought this was a conservation purchase to offset the development of other "conservation" labeled pieces of land elsewhere on property?

Definitely possible, and would make sense that it was purchased by The Celebration Company and not WDPR. Looking at Google earth it is further away from MK than I originally thought.

 

[Captain Barbossa]

Do yall know what the impact on the WDWRR will be?

My question too. We just put up with multiple years of it being closed for Tron.

Everything that I’ve heard and seen up to this point since blue sky was announced was either no closure or brief closure, but I’m very much taking those two with a grain of salt.

 

[ChrisFL]

It would be very bad for park navigation for them to leave RoA as-is. BTMR is already an inconvenient dead-end. Adding a huge expansion past that without connecting it to Fantasyland or Liberty Square would be a navigational nightmare. And adding a long trek past HM to the new expansion, with nothing to do on the way, wouldn’t be ideal either.

They could do a lot of stuff if they were to....as much as I hate to say it....shorten the path of the riverboat and add bridges across to Tom Sawyer's Island past where the path of the riverboat would go

 

[rd805]

I just hope that any villains land includes a Nightmare Before Christmas dark ride.

It probably wouldn't, but it'd be an instant favorite of mine!

 

[Ichabod Crane]

It probably wouldn't, but it'd be an instant favorite of mine!

idk I honestly think it has a decently strong chance. Oogie is often used with the other villains nowadays and the ride would fit the land perfectly. Plus it’s also something that would easily attract families into the area.

 

[GhostHost1000]

It probably wouldn't, but it'd be an instant favorite of mine!

Tim Burton as a consultant for Dark Kingdom expansion would be interesting lol

 

[ToTBellHop]

Everything that I’ve heard and seen up to this point since blue sky was announced was either no closure or brief closure, but I’m very much taking those two with a grain of salt.

The only things that would necessitate closure would be a RoA re-route or an eastern connection from the expansion to the rest of the park. There really should be a connection to the expansion in addition to the path by Splash that could easily go in.

 

[dmc493]

All the respect to people who love nightmare before Christmas and oogie boogie and such. But I am a haunted mansion holiday hater and having anything nightmare in an expansion would be a huge bummer for me

 

[Tha Realest]

In terms of villains land, go big concept. Have a version of a Fantasyland with some subtextual traces of malevolence, but not outwardly scary. Come dusk, a lightning package kicks in (a la Radiator Springs) slightly transforms the land into something more sinister.

The night parties and/or desert packages for the transformation pays for itself.