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Mike S

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I know they remake films that don’t really need them from a story perspective because they print money, but you’re totally right that there’s a couple movies like Atlantis that make a lot of sense to remake. Hunchback and Treasure Planet are the other two movies that could really stand to benefit as well.

I genuinely don’t have a problem with franchise movies if they’re good. I really wish more of the remakes were fresh takes like A Star is Born or prequel/sequels like Cruella than unwatchable, uninspired rip-off movies like the Lion King remake.
Hunchback is great as it is imo.
 

doctornick

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Absolutely. And the Zootopia ride has no height requirement, which is great for DHS. 3 rides with that ride system are the only concern. I’d rather a boat ride.

I'm a huge fan of putting Shanghai POTC in DHS and then removing the Jack Sparrow elements to MK POTC. The rides are certainly different enough to have both (esp in different parks)
 

UNCgolf

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I'm a huge fan of putting Shanghai POTC in DHS and then removing the Jack Sparrow elements to MK POTC. The rides are certainly different enough to have both (esp in different parks)

I'd personally prefer to see them use the Shanghai POTC system for something else that would let them fix the flaws in the existing ride -- it relies too heavily on film segments, which holds it back from being a truly great attraction IMO -- but I'd certainly take it over nothing at DHS.
 
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J4546

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a massive water ride at DHS would be a great addition as it has none. And entire treasure cove style area would be awesome esp with Camp Discovery, but I dont want 2 PotC. I still think they shoulda built a new toontown in that area when they designed MMRR and also build a 1 off water based major attraction for Donald/Daisy as well....plus all the houses and play area and a couple small rides.
 

doctornick

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a massive water ride at DHS would be a great addition as it has none. And entire treasure cove style area would be awesome esp with Camp Discovery, but I dont want 2 PotC. I still think they shoulda built a new toontown in that area when they designed MMRR and also build a 1 off water based major attraction for Donald/Daisy as well....plus all the houses and play area and a couple small rides.
Why not? They are two completely different rides and experiences. It doesn't seem that odd for a particular popular IP to have multiple attractions - there's three Star Wars rides at DHS for example - why can't POTC carry two in all of WDW?
 

Fox&Hound

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The only place Zootopia should be going is at the Studios. It is a fully immersive land that has no place in AK or MK and fits the “mission statement” of DHS.

And DHS needs it WAY more.
The problem is the ride vehicle and structure is so similar to Mickey’s and Rise that it would seem too repetitive. I agree the land would work nicely there but three trackless rides in the same park is a lot.
 

Fox&Hound

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I just wish Disney had a big picture plan. It seems like they keep thinking short term where they should put a hot IP but there is absolutely no five year, ten year, twenty year plan.

I have so many hopes for Beyond Big Thunder but today’s Disney will waste the space cause they dont seem to have any rhyme or reason why rides and experiences are being placed where they are.
 

UNCgolf

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The problem is the ride vehicle and structure is so similar to Mickey’s and Rise that it would seem too repetitive. I agree the land would work nicely there but three trackless rides in the same park is a lot.

I don't think having multiple trackless rides really matters -- MMRR and Rise are both trackless but they're not remotely similar attractions. A park could have 6 or 7 trackless rides (or omnimovers, or boat rides, etc.) and that would be fine as long as the content (far more important than the actual ride system) was sufficiently different. There are numerous parks that are almost entirely roller coasters and that's not generally considered a problem.

The Zootopia ride just doesn't look especially good, though. It has a few places where it gets somewhat interesting... and then you go watch a movie.
 

Fox&Hound

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As much as Zootopia really does not make sense for MK, I can see why they might want to add a trackless ride there. Should be a big people eater and unlike the Radiator Springs Racer ride it is all indoors. But like another poster said, a police themed ride seems weird given their recent changes to Splash.
 

Fox&Hound

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I don't think having multiple trackless rides really matters -- MMRR and Rise are both trackless but they're not remotely similar attractions. A park could have 6 or 7 trackless rides (or omnimovers, or boat rides, etc.) and that would be fine as long as the content (far more important than the actual ride system) was sufficiently different. There are numerous parks that are almost entirely roller coasters and that's not generally considered a problem.

The Zootopia ride just doesn't look especially good, though. It has a few places where it gets somewhat interesting... and then you go watch a movie.
And for that reason it feels too similar to Mickey’s. I agree Rise is its own thing entirely. But even Zootopia steals the drop sequence from Rise. Major changes would need to happen if brought to the studios which I would argue negates cloning it.
 

ChewbaccaYourMum

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I'm a huge fan of putting Shanghai POTC in DHS and then removing the Jack Sparrow elements to MK POTC. The rides are certainly different enough to have both (esp in different parks)
I have been wanting this for soooo long. I've even went as far as saying just put Shanghai's Pirates next to our Pirates in that huge plot of land between Jungle Cruise and Pirates. Just anything to get it over here lol!
 

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