News 'Beyond Big Thunder Mountain' Blue Sky concept revealed for Magic Kingdom

[MisterPenguin]

Jim Shull's predictions for Beyond Big Thunder: Zootopia, Moana and Villains. Not sure if any truth to it or he's just speculating but he's hinted at Zootopia before

No Coco? Zootopia in Tree of Life abandoned?

This reads like old info and wish fulfillment.

 

[MisterPenguin]

It would actually work really well given the theming at Jungle Cruise, now, so, naturally, it will go to Animal Kingdom.

Well, it would make sense to also move Jungle Cruise to Disney's Jungle Kingdom while they're at it.

 

[Mike S]

Where in Adventureland though? Moana is a 10/10 fit there, but replacing an existing attraction wouldn't move the needle too much on capacity and might gum up the traffic flow even more. A new area is a clean slate and we don't know what the transitions look like after BTMR.

Right here.

There is an expansion plot between Pirates and Jungle Cruise, where Fire Mountain was supposed to go.
I think a Moana attraction is likely given its streaming numbers, just not sure if beyond Big Thunder is the correct location

What he said.

 

[J4546]

I still think a moana spinner from AK concept art should replace aladdin spinner area that would go a long way to making that area coherent. And use Fire mountain pad for Indy of course

 

[UNCgolf]

Well, it would make sense to also move Jungle Cruise to Disney's Jungle Kingdom while they're at it.

Jungle Cruise actually wouldn't really make any sense at Animal Kingdom. It's a bunch of AAs of animals when you can see the real versions in the same park (I don't think Jungle Cruise really makes sense at the MK now either and would happily see it replaced, but that's a separate argument).

I don't really get the desire to push Zootopia into any of the US parks beyond the fact Disney has already designed an attraction elsewhere that they can re-use. The movie did well here, but it was definitely more popular in the international market, and I haven't gotten the impression it's an especially beloved IP in the United States. I think they have other unused or underused IP -- Lion King and Aladdin, e.g. -- that would have a bigger impact. Maybe the streaming numbers say otherwise, though.

 

[pdude81]

Jungle Cruise actually wouldn't really make any sense at Animal Kingdom. It's a bunch of AAs of animals when you can actually see the real versions in the same park (I don't think Jungle Cruise really makes sense at the MK now either and would happily see it replaced, but that's a separate argument).

I'd argue that Skipper Canteen is valuable enough to keep the Jungle Cruise in perpetuity, but only if they bring back Perkins Thai Noodles.

 

[UNCgolf]

I'd argue that Skipper Canteen is valuable enough to keep the Jungle Cruise in perpetuity, but only if they bring back Perkins Thai Noodles.

I think the Skipper Canteen could be lightly rethemed and remain mostly as it is even without the Jungle Cruise.

Not that they're going to remove the Jungle Cruise.

 

[Advisable Joseph]

Zootopia in Tree of Life abandoned?

Who said Zootopia in the Tree of Life was abandoned?

 

[Andrew25]

Is Skipper Canteen doing good business? Always thought it'd be better off as an permanent Egg Roll/Trader Sams venue lol

 

[DisneyDean97]

Right here.
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What he said.

Seeing a volcano "mountain" on this plot, like the plans for Fire Mountain called for, would have been amazing, imagine seeing pop out of the trees as you approach the Magic Kingdom on the Ferry Boats.

 

[Purduevian]

Is Skipper Canteen doing good business? Always thought it'd be better off as an permanent Egg Roll/Trader Sams venue lol

As far as sit downs in MK, its actually my favorite. Best blend of good food, interesting menu, and fun environment!

 

[J4546]

yeah i wish atlantis had done better in theaters cause its a great movie and wed have fire mountain

 

[Andrew25]

As far as sit downs in MK, its actually my favorite. Best blend of good food, interesting menu, and fun environment!

I'm sure its far better than the other sit downs... but is it popular? Seems like it always has availability and I can't imagine they're happy with that. It's a prime location and I really want them to give the egg roll cart a proper location with seating.

 

[erasure fan1]

yeah i wish atlantis had done better in theaters cause its a great movie and wed have fire mountain

Don't give up hope. Adjusted for inflation, Atlantis wasn't that far off from princess and the frog. And that got to take over splash. So there's always a chance for it to take over space or thunder mountain.

 

[Brer Panther]

Wouldn't Moana fit just fine in Adventureland? Ah well, having it in the Beyond Big Thunder spot is better than having it in Animal Kingdom...

Not a fan of the Zootopia idea. Mainly because I don't think Disney World needs a clone of the mediocre Shanghai Disneyland dark ride.

 

[Brer Oswald]

I just don't see a ride where the premise is "join the cops on a police chase after going through a queue that's a prison" playing well to a modern American audience. Even ignoring how out of place that would be in the Magic Kingdom it just isn't gonna work

Moana feels more like Adventureland but there might not really be room there. Plus, the only actual "Polynesian" part of Adventureland at wdw is the Tiki Room. Perhaps the Tiki Room could get moved (along with a slight update) to the new Moana/Polynesian area which would help that land (or mini-land whatever) feel less like just a single IP. Take out the theater and Magic Carpets. Fix that horrible bottle neck. And add a new A-Ticket or meet and greet in that space that will take up less room

Villains works. I like that the best since it isn't a single IP, just based around a vibe or a concept which feels very fitting for Magic Kingdom since most of the other lands are more vibe/concept based rather than immersive areas or IP based. A Haunted Forest or spooky carnival or ruined castle or whatever full of Villains that uses Haunted Mansion as a transition point to Liberty Squarr sounds like a slam dunk as long as they don't get too intense that it scares little ones away

I don't put much stock in what he says as being reliable, but aside from Zootopia I could see this working well.

Majority of people wouldn’t care, especially since it’s cartoon animals. You might see a few Twitter complaints, but that wouldn’t deter them if they wanted to build it anyways.

 

[Rich Brownn]

Don't give up hope. Adjusted for inflation, Atlantis wasn't that far off from princess and the frog. And that got to take over splash. So there's always a chance for it to take over space or thunder mountain.

Atlantis cost more to make though.

 

[arich35]

I just wish these would just announce something, been months and months of what ifs

 

[PREMiERdrum]

They want dirt moving at two sites by a very specific date next summer. Where and what, we'll see.

 

[EricsBiscuit]

They want dirt moving at two sites by a very specific date next summer. Where and what, we'll see.

In other words, don’t expect any new ride to open after Moana until 2028?