DAK AVATAR Concept Art released

[MerlinTheGoat]

I've not been following the project much now but I've not heard of an increase from two. I'd assume if there was someone would shout from the rooftops.

When they cut that third true E ticket initially, did they cut its budget out of the mix entirely, or was a part of the third ride's budget partially salvaged to at least improve the two remaining rides somewhat (assuming ANY money from the third was left over)? There was a topic a while back discussing a Screamscape rumor (yes I know their reputation isn't very good) about the boat ride being closer in nature to Pirates with a drop or two. Or was the last you heard still being just a calm drop-less Living in the Land?

 

[Tom]

When they cut that third true E ticket initially, did they cut its budget out of the mix entirely, or was a part of the third ride's budget partially salvaged to at least improve the two remaining rides somewhat (assuming ANY money from the third was left over)? There was a topic a while back discussing a Screamscape rumor (yes I know their reputation isn't very good) about the boat ride being closer in nature to Pirates with a drop or two. Or was the last you heard still being just a calm drop-less Living in the Land?

I suppose there is the chance that there could be a drop in the boat ride, since it does travel through the multi-story E-ticket show building. But there's been nothing to imply this, that I know of.

 

[doctornick]

There was a topic a while back discussing a Screamscape rumor (yes I know their reputation isn't very good) about the boat ride being closer in nature to Pirates with a drop or two. Or was the last you heard still being just a calm drop-less Living in the Land?

I don't see having a PotC style drop or two versus being level all the way making any different to a ride. The drop in PotC doesn't add any real thrill factor. And FWIW I don't really want to see the ride being "thrilling" in terms of motion in any way -- DAK really needs family style rides that everyone can enjoy, no matter what the thrill tolerance.

The key for the boat ride IMHO is how long the experience is (I'm hoping for something in the 10-15 min range) and the quality of the show scenes. Ideally it would include the newer tech where the boats can get "pointed" to particular scenes/effects like an omnimover.

 

[kap91]

I don't see having a PotC style drop or two versus being level all the way making any different to a ride. The drop in PotC doesn't add any real thrill factor. And FWIW I don't really want to see the ride being "thrilling" in terms of motion in any way -- DAK really needs family style rides that everyone can enjoy, no matter what the thrill tolerance.

The key for the boat ride IMHO is how long the experience is (I'm hoping for something in the 10-15 min range) and the quality of the show scenes. Ideally it would include the newer tech where the boats can get "pointed" to particular scenes/effects like an omnimover.

Here here. Although realistically with it being a modern ride the ride length is likely to be 5-7 minutes. (Just a cross-industry trend I've noticed. ) I completely agree with the family ride sentiment. Too many people focus on how many maneuvers a ride vehicle can make vs. what you see on the ride.

On a personal level my Aunt is disabled and suffers from chronic pain and loves Avatar. It would mean so much for her if she was actually able to go on at least one of the rides - so I'm hoping for no drops.

 

[MerlinTheGoat]

I don't see having a PotC style drop or two versus being level all the way making any different to a ride. The drop in PotC doesn't add any real thrill factor. And FWIW I don't really want to see the ride being "thrilling" in terms of motion in any way -- DAK really needs family style rides that everyone can enjoy, no matter what the thrill tolerance.

The key for the boat ride IMHO is how long the experience is (I'm hoping for something in the 10-15 min range) and the quality of the show scenes. Ideally it would include the newer tech where the boats can get "pointed" to particular scenes/effects like an omnimover.

Agreed with the second part and some of the first. DAK definitely needs family rides and some nice lengthy experiences with quality show scenes. I agree that the drop in POTC isn't thrilling in any way, but it does make a difference for that particular ride. I don't know of anyone who would prefer to ride a POTC without at least a minor drop despite being very mild, except maybe a handicapped person. It's not thrilling or scary (so it doesn't really limit the people who can ride and enjoy it much in that manner), but the small drops still add a fun bit of kinetic energy to the ride. I'd be ok with the ride sans drops assuming it's well themed enough on its own to not need any of that kinetic energy. But I do like small drops in boat rides, won't lie.

EDIT- Disabled I can understand. I'm perfectly fine with the boat ride as long as they go overboard with the theming and show scene quality (I demand some freaking decent and large quantity of animatronics for a change). But if Mermaid is any indication for what to expect, i'm not getting my hopes up. Disney only labeled this a C ticket in the leaked plans, even they considered Mermaid a D ticket bordering on "E ticket lite". The Dwarf Coaster is also considered a D.

 

[danlb_2000]

I don't see having a PotC style drop or two versus being level all the way making any different to a ride. The drop in PotC doesn't add any real thrill factor. And FWIW I don't really want to see the ride being "thrilling" in terms of motion in any way -- DAK really needs family style rides that everyone can enjoy, no matter what the thrill tolerance.

The key for the boat ride IMHO is how long the experience is (I'm hoping for something in the 10-15 min range) and the quality of the show scenes. Ideally it would include the newer tech where the boats can get "pointed" to particular scenes/effects like an omnimover.

Speak for yourself, I am not a fan of drops, even the one on Pirates scares me.

 

[MerlinTheGoat]

Speak for yourself, I am not a fan of drops, even the one on Pirates scares me.

The only thing that scares me about the drop(s) in Pirates is potentially getting wet. Usually you don't from such a tiny drop, but I took a trip a few years ago only to find they had apparently switched some jets on at the bottom (apparently they were usually disabled prior to that). Somehow managed to get soaked despite the mildness of the drop...

I'm usually absolutely terrified of falling. But I don't mind the POTC-intensity drops whatsoever (or Maelstrom). The drop in Kali creeps me out a little due to the unpredictability of the rafts going down at different angles (also a bit uncomfortable about rapids). Splash Mountain is more intense, but still perfectly manageable now that i've gotten used to it (too amazing of a ride otherwise to miss out on). Tower of Terror and similar types of drops are where I really have to FORCE myself to ride (and can only rarely build up the courage to do so). I'll only ride ToT to experience the amazing attraction around the terror part.

 

[danlb_2000]

The only thing that scares me about the drop(s) in Pirates is potentially getting wet. Usually you don't from such a tiny drop, but I took a trip a few years ago only to find they had apparently switched some jets on at the bottom (apparently they were usually disabled prior to that). Somehow managed to get soaked despite the mildness of the drop...

I'm usually absolutely terrified of falling. But I don't mind the POTC-intensity drops whatsoever. Splash Mountain is more intense, but still perfectly manageable now that i've gotten used to it. Tower of Terror and similar types of drops are where I really have to FORCE myself to ride (and can only rarely build up the courage to do so). I'll only ride ToT to experience the amazing attraction around the terror part.

I still have not gotten up the courage to go on Splash, and can you can just totally forget about Tower!

 

[MerlinTheGoat]

I still have not gotten up the courage to go on Splash, and can you can just totally forget about Tower!

You should try building up your courage on less intense drops before taking on Splash if you're too wary of the big drop. I've fear of both falling and heights, but actually riding these rides a bunch has helped my phobias become far less intense (now I even enjoy the view on Everest). Splash has a couple of minor drops inside similar to Pirates, along with another smallish one that has a sort of roller coaster like dip and incline (which i've gotten to feel is actually a little more intense than the big one to be honest in some ways). I find the big drop looks immensely more terrifying than it actually is (Tower of Terror on the flipside I find to be more intense than it appears, I can barely ever force myself to ride it having only been on it 3 times).

It's worth attempting to conquer your fears and try Splash at least once. It's not just about the drops, unlike most other log rides it has FANTASTIC show scenes inside on a similar level to that of Pirates. You may already know that if you've seen videos of it though. It's probably up there with my favorite rides ever.

 

[marni1971]

When they cut that third true E ticket initially, did they cut its budget out of the mix entirely, or was a part of the third ride's budget partially salvaged to at least improve the two remaining rides somewhat

From what I know it went to cut costs.

I'm not the best authority on the details through own choice but from what I heard the boat ride will be just that. Should be pretty though.

 

[sabbyxxo]

I see where you are coming from, however I don't think Avatar needs to be a legacy or as popular to be amazing. The Land itself is noteworthy in my opinion and I think Its going to turn out great!

You have a point! I'm starting to grow on it anyways. Guess it's just getting used to having another area taken away, BUT, it's all worth it!

 

[MOXOMUMD]

and can you can just totally forget about Tower!

Same here! (chicken exit please)

 

[DinoInstitute]

Guys, the rides are actually great!! I am always scared too, but managing to go on so I don't have to sit alone for an hour!
The only rides I havn't been on are M:S orange and RRC because of motion sickness and the upside down

 

[dstrawn9889]

you arent upside down for very long on RnR... LOL

 

[DinoInstitute]

Yeah ik i just get all woozy afterwards, judging by other upsidedown rides at my hometown amusement park

 

[BiffyClyro]

From the moment AVATAR was released, people were captivated by the fact that 3D movies were a bit less sucky than they used to be.

 

[twebber55]

Map from sideways screenshot above. Love Photoshop!
Blade Runner . . . zoom . . . enhance!

hey @danlb_2000 and @Tom
looking at this picture and then looking at the overhead shot makes me think they are going to take some more of those buildings down and rebuild...what do you think?

 

[danlb_2000]

hey @danlb_2000 and @Tom
looking at this picture and then looking at the overhead shot makes me think they are going to take some more of those buildings down and rebuild...what do you think?

Or those could just be representations of the existing backstage buildings. The blue building in that image looks similar to the one that is there now.

 

[twebber55]

Or those could just be representations of the existing backstage buildings. The blue building in that image looks similar to the one that is there now.

yeah I thought that too...wasn't sure...it looks a little different to me so I thought I would go to you two

 

[jt04]

A little advice to all future theme park builders. All your support buildings should go outside the berm. And parking garages create a safer and more pleasent guest experience. See Universal Orlando and soon Disney Springs for evidence.

PS- Yes I know DS is not a theme park per se. But it bolsters the concept.