EPCOT Announced: Mary Poppins Attraction in UK Pavilion

[mikejs78]

It’s a shame they’re not in Fantasyland.

I mean, to be fair, Coco probably belongs more in the Mexico pavilion than in Fantasyland. And you can make a case for Poppins in UK. The others though I agree with you on.

 

[SailorMercury]

It’s a shame they’re not in Fantasyland.

Frozen should be in Fantasyland (coming from #1 FEA apologist), the rest could go elsewhere.

Coco fits the idea of showcasing Mexican culture, fitting the original idea of World Showcase. (But at the same time it’s based on a holiday. It’s like making a Christmas ride permanent)

Mary Poppins would also fit Fantasyland (gut PPF for it I don’t care for PPF lmao) but the UK is the pavilion most in need of something IMO. It’s usually the pavilion I spend the least amount of time in.

As for Moana, I could totally see it in Adventureland if they had the space for it. But because there’s no space, Fantasyland is a good alternative I suppose.

 

[UNCgolf]

Moana could work relatively well as part of Animal Kingdom if they added a south Pacific area.

 

[J4546]

imagine if they created an amazing dark ride where it started like a carousel and everyone got their own horse....and then the horses seperated like in the movie...I am trying to imagine how the ride vehicles would be though....cause id like them to be single rider carousel horses and not sit down group vehicles....im thinking they are hung from the sky like peter pan and you make a ride kinda like that, but your on a horse soaring over the UK and through the mary poppins universe.

The big downfall is with a single rider carousel style horse ride vehicles, someone could fall off if they were an idiot....and lots of people are idiots.

 

[SailorMercury]

imagine if they created an amazing dark ride where it started like a carousel and everyone got their own horse....and then the horses seperated like in the movie...I am trying to imagine how the ride vehicles would be though....cause id like them to be single rider carousel horses and not sit down group vehicles....im thinking they are hung from the sky like peter pan and you make a ride kinda like that, but your on a horse soaring over the UK and through the mary poppins universe.

The big downfall is with a single rider carousel style horse ride vehicles, someone could fall off if they were an idiot....and lots of people are idiots.

We have lap bars for a reason. It'd be pretty easy to seamlessly add one in.

 

[James Alucobond]

imagine if they created an amazing dark ride where it started like a carousel and everyone got their own horse....and then the horses seperated like in the movie...I am trying to imagine how the ride vehicles would be though....cause id like them to be single rider carousel horses and not sit down group vehicles....im thinking they are hung from the sky like peter pan and you make a ride kinda like that, but your on a horse soaring over the UK and through the mary poppins universe.

The big downfall is with a single rider carousel style horse ride vehicles, someone could fall off if they were an idiot....and lots of people are idiots.

Carousels tend to have benches as well, so you could have horses that no one actually "occupies" going along an inner track with the benches on the outside so that it looks like a standard carousel when loading at the queue, but guests only take the bench seats.

 

[TikibirdLand]

Didn’t pass the eye test

that lamppost dance really differentiated from step in time

and rolling Angela Lansbury (Andrews declined...to her credit) to sing “nowhere to go but up” was such a bold departure from “let’s go fly a kite”...

I mean...one had kites and one had balloons!!


you know...you can like Disney and not swallow everything they tell you...the two can be mutually exclusive concepts.

I, for one, loved MP:R. Songs were witty. Blunt and Miranda put in lovely performances. You had to have nods to the previous movie. I'd love to see another too. Loved seeing Angela Landsbury in the movie; I don't think Julie Andrews fit that part. Dick VanDyke was in it and gave some great retrospective commentary. If you're a fan of the first movie, wouldn't you want to walk down Cherry Tree Lane? I'd totally do that before wanting to walk down that wasteland called Black Spire Outpost.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I, for one, loved MP:R. Songs were witty. Blunt and Miranda put in lovely performances. You had to have nods to the previous movie. I'd love to see another too. Loved seeing Angela Landsbury in the movie; I don't think Julie Andrews fit that part. Dick VanDyke was in it and gave some great retrospective commentary. If you're a fan of the first movie, wouldn't you want to walk down Cherry Tree Lane? I'd totally do that before wanting to walk down that wasteland called Black Spire Outpost.

Well...I can concede that

 

[GimpYancIent]

It's also a shame that Disney fans think every new cartoon deserves a ride or that they should only build rides about cartoons.

But! IT's DISNEY!

 

[GimpYancIent]

Well...I can concede that

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

A dark ride / trackless that simulates the freed carousel horses through setpieces in both films would have been wonderful.

Wdw is gonna go from zero to “killed” on trackless in 2 years flat.

can’t throw up 10 of those...there are not that many tricks in the ponies

 

[James Alucobond]

Wdw is gonna go from zero to “killed” on trackless in 2 years flat.

can’t throw up 10 of those...there are not that many tricks in the ponies

I feel like there’s probably space for 2ish trackless rides in each park. Yeah, you don’t want to overindex on them, but most of the parks have at least a couple of rides with the same or similar ride systems. Hollywood Studios probably doesn’t need any other ones, but I could see one more for EPCOT, one for Magic Kingdom, and one for Animal Kingdom.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Wdw is gonna go from zero to “killed” on trackless in 2 years flat.

can’t throw up 10 of those...there are not that many tricks in the ponies

And the tricks aren’t really that great.

Honestly I notice the ride path more on rise than I do on Spider-Man and Transformers.

I would like to see more dark rides in all of the parks - but I don’t care if they are trackless, tracked, water flume, Omni-mover etc.

 

[UNCgolf]

And the tricks aren’t really that great.

Honestly I notice the ride path more on rise than I do on Spider-Man and Transformers.

I would like to see more dark rides in all of the parks - but I don’t care if they are trackless, tracked, water flume, Omni-mover etc.

Same here. More dark rides; the ride system is mostly irrelevant.

With that said, I'd probably prefer they not use trackless, only because WDI seems to think they must use the "tricks" in basically every scene. I don't know if that's to justify the cost or what, but every trackless ride ends up having multiple scenes (and sometimes the whole ride) where it feels like you're just in a huge warehouse. They lose intimacy.

That's not an inherent flaw of the trackless system, because you don't have to do that. You could design scenes where the vehicles move in a normal straight line just like a bus bar dark ride and then split up for certain areas. I actually think that would result in a more impressive ride because the areas where they vehicles go around in different places would be "special" instead of the entire ride.

 

[Brer Panther]

The problem with trackless rides is that the most recent ones keep falling into the same trap: big, open spaces with barely any props not against the walls sandwiched in-between scenes where the ride vehicles just park in front of a giant screen (or, in the case of Ratatouille, just scenes where the ride vehicles just park in front of a giant screen with only one quick physical set in between them). The novelty has worn off. When's the last time they built a regular ol' busbar dark ride?

 

[IMDREW]

Same here. More dark rides; the ride system is mostly irrelevant.

With that said, I'd probably prefer they not use trackless, only because WDI seems to think they must use the "tricks" in basically every scene. I don't know if that's to justify the cost or what, but every trackless ride ends up having multiple scenes (and sometimes the whole ride) where it feels like you're just in a huge warehouse. They lose intimacy.

That's not really a flaw of the trackless system, because you don't have to do that. You could design scenes where the vehicles move in a normal straight line just like a bus bar dark ride and then split up for certain areas. I actually think that would result in a more impressive ride because the areas where they vehicles go around in different places would be "special" instead of the entire ride.

See Mystic Manor

 

[UNCgolf]

The problem with trackless rides is that the most recent ones keep falling into the same trap: big, open spaces with barely any props not against the walls sandwiched in-between scenes where the ride vehicles just park in front of a giant screen (or, in the case of Ratatouille, just scenes where the ride vehicles just park in front of a giant screen with only one quick physical set in between them). The novelty has worn off. When's the last time they built a regular ol' busbar dark ride?

Probably Frozen Ever After, if that counts -- which is not a good ride. Before that would be Little Mermaid, I think, which is also not a good ride.

I'm not sure it has anything to do with the ride system; it's about the people designing it.

 

[Brer Panther]

Probably Frozen Ever After, if that counts -- which is not a good ride. Before that would be Little Mermaid, I think, which is also not a good ride.

Technically those aren't busbar dark rides, one's a boat ride and the other's an Omnimover.

 

[UNCgolf]

See Mystic Manor

Are you agreeing or disagreeing?

Mystic Manor and Pooh's Hunny Hunt are the two best overall (well, and Rise, but that's different because the setting lends itself to large open rooms), but even they have a couple of warehouse scenes. They're nowhere near as bad as some of the others, though.

 

[UNCgolf]

Technically those aren't busbar dark rides, one's a boat ride and the other's an Omnimover.

I know, that's why I said "if that counts". I don't think there's really a meaningful difference between them and a bus bar dark ride in terms of ride design.