News Announced: Mary Poppins Attraction in UK Pavilion

nickys

nickys

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Chef idea Mickey`= said:
Would any of you want The UK having London Icon? Or do you like the pavilion as is. Originally Big Ben was proposed alongside the Thames River cruise.
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The building housing the restrooms appears to take its inspiration from Hampton Court Palace.

But I don’t see why it should be London centric. There are enough people as it is who think it’s the England pavilion.
 
Bocabear

Bocabear

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Mostr people around the world think of London icons as representational of the country...much like Europeans think the NYC , Hollywood and Miami represent the US... So the thought of using a very well known piece of architecture from London makes sense... Perhaps they should add more to the pavilion as they expand it one day.... The pavilions all make references to famous architecture from each country.... THe UK Pavilion seems lighter than the others in grand references....
 
Chef idea Mickey`=

Chef idea Mickey`=

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nickys said:
The building housing the restrooms appears to take its inspiration from Hampton Court Palace.

But I don’t see why it should be London centric. There are enough people as it is who think it’s the England pavilion.
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Hampton Court Palace is in London, that's a neat feature I didn't know about.

Oh I was just asking because old concepts showed having a landmark from London.
There is nothing wrong with The UK Pavilion as it is, it's totally recognizable. I just thought each pavilion had a tower or something to stand out from the lagoon and England went quaint.
 
nickys

nickys

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Chef idea Mickey`= said:
Hampton Court Palace is in London, that's a neat feature I didn't know about.

Oh I was just asking because old concepts showed having a landmark from London.
There is nothing wrong with The UK Pavilion as it is, it's totally recognizable. I just thought each pavilion had a tower or something to stand out from the lagoon and England went quaint.
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Don’t let anyone from Richmond hear you say that! 😜 I mean, you’re right but they like to think they’re separate! I wish they’d done more with it than just restrooms though!

I totally see the point of a landmark but they did go with a different concept in the end. The tea shop shows 4 centuries of buildings. The Rose & Crown has 3 different facades to it - the seaside pub, the country pub and the town pub.
The formal gardens and row of town houses are fairly classic.

But it’s all more stereotypical rather than from a particular place.
 
Chef idea Mickey`=

Chef idea Mickey`=

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Come to think of it, if a scaled Big Ben were to been built it would probably changed Epcot and World Showcase a lot for it would bell chime every hour, no different than Germany but Germany is not loud chimes that you would hear it from the lagoon a mile away..😜

The red telephone booth is one stand out icon itself.
 
Kamikaze

Kamikaze

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Chef idea Mickey`= said:
You mean right now today? What is it different than replicating the Eiffel Tower... I suppose Big Ben isn't really replicated but if that was a factor then it wouldn't be in the proposals back in the day.
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The Icon/Eye is a business. Eiffel Tower and Big Ben are landmarks.

It would be like someone doing 'Floridaland' and putting a Cinderella Castle replica in it. Its not allowed under the law as the Castle is considered the trademarked IP of Disney.
 
Chef idea Mickey`=

Chef idea Mickey`=

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nickys said:
Don’t let anyone from Richmond hear you say that! 😜 I mean, you’re right but they like to think they’re separate! I wish they’d done more with it than just restrooms though!

I totally see the point of a landmark but they did go with a different concept in the end. The tea shop shows 4 centuries of buildings. The Rose & Crown has 3 different facades to it - the seaside pub, the country pub and the town pub.
The formal gardens and row of town houses are fairly classic.

But it’s all more stereotypical rather than from a particular place.
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Yeah, I know... just like never say to a Taiwan friend anything they are related to China. When referring to Dutch Germans aren't related or connected to Holland nor Belgium! 😜
 
lazyboy97o

lazyboy97o

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Kamikaze said:
The Icon/Eye is a business. Eiffel Tower and Big Ben are landmarks.

It would be like someone doing 'Floridaland' and putting a Cinderella Castle replica in it. Its not allowed under the law as the Castle is considered the trademarked IP of Disney.
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That’s not why. Landmark isn’t an intellectual property designation. Nor does being privately owned by a business confer any intellectual property protections.

Trademarks protect things like logos and phrases. A specific graphic representation of a building can be trademarked but it’s not the building itself. Trademarks are unique from copyright and patents in that they can continue to be held so long as they are actively used.

Architectural works are protected by copyright, which means the protections eventually expire. This is also a more recent development in intellectual property rights, particularly in the US which is why Disney’s Hollywood Studios and Universal Studios Florida are full of replicas of buildings from around Hollywood. It actually would be permissible to build a replica of Cinderella Castle because it predates the changes to US copyright law protecting the actual building itself. This is also why the story about the Chinese Theatre rights was not true.

The London Eye is recent enough that it is still protected by copyright. Victoria Tower and the Eiffel Tower are both old enough that any copyright protection that would have applied has expired. The Eiffel Tower is famously the source of copyright confusion as while the tower itself is not protected by copyright, the night show that was installed in 1989 is protected by copyright.

Disney could easily add a Ferris Wheel and people would know the association. Merlin doesn’t own the general concept of the ride or it being in an urban area. The issue is more that’s it’s just not a great idea.
 
Kamikaze

Kamikaze

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lazyboy97o said:
That’s not why. Landmark isn’t an intellectual property designation. Nor does being privately owned by a business confer any intellectual property protections.

Trademarks protect things like logos and phrases. A specific graphic representation of a building can be trademarked but it’s not the building itself. Trademarks are unique from copyright and patents in that they can continue to be held so long as they are actively used.

Architectural works are protected by copyright, which means the protections eventually expire. This is also a more recent development in intellectual property rights, particularly in the US which is why Disney’s Hollywood Studios and Universal Studios Florida are full of replicas of buildings from around Hollywood. It actually would be permissible to build a replica of Cinderella Castle because it predates the changes to US copyright law protecting the actual building itself. This is also why the story about the Chinese Theatre rights was not true.

The London Eye is recent enough that it is still protected by copyright. Victoria Tower and the Eiffel Tower are both old enough that any copyright protection that would have applied has expired. The Eiffel Tower is famously the source of copyright confusion as while the tower itself is not protected by copyright, the night show that was installed in 1989 is protected by copyright.

Disney could easily add a Ferris Wheel and people would know the association. Merlin doesn’t own the general concept of the ride or it being in an urban area. The issue is more that’s it’s just not a great idea.
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Why waste time use lot word when few word do trick
 

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